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10-22-2017, 06:32 PM | #61 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv0oAa-pPWM
Saturday Sessions: William Patrick Corgan performs "The Long Goodbye" |
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10-22-2017, 07:51 PM | #62 | |
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10-22-2017, 08:58 PM | #63 | |
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I've always thought it was lame when I'd see guys like Weiland and Ozzy glued to teleprompters for some of their biggest hits. It's like come on man.... really? I think some of these rock stars just take for granted the dream job that they get to do for a living. It's why I appreciate a lot of these punk bands who never have the big money but stick it out anyways. You'd never see a group with a large catalogue like The Ramones or SNFU using teleprompters. |
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10-22-2017, 09:03 PM | #64 | |
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Pretty weak that a guy like Corgan can't sell out the intimate venues he's playing. I think it's the whole "William Patrick Corgan" thing that's pissing people off. If he just toured as Billy Corgan it would hold more weight I think. But people hear William Patrick Corgan and just think "Oh please". |
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10-22-2017, 09:08 PM | #65 |
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yeah whenever I see someone saying 'WPC' i think they're lame
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10-22-2017, 09:12 PM | #66 |
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Yeah, guy should just own it.
In the late 90's Charlie Sheen tried to change his name to Charles Sheen and everyone laughed and thought he was an idiot and it didn't stick. If you're in show-business and lucky enough to have a name that is identifiable then you should really just embrace it. Just another notch in the belt to add to Corgans long list of bad career choices. |
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10-23-2017, 12:30 AM | #67 |
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Billy has even said using William is a joke, and he thinks journalists are stupid for going along with it.
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10-23-2017, 12:49 AM | #68 | |
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10-23-2017, 03:22 AM | #69 | |
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10-23-2017, 08:36 AM | #70 |
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I do.
but I agree with you |
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10-23-2017, 09:46 AM | #71 |
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When I saw Boris Takeshi knew all the lines by heart AND he was singing in a weird foreign language.
Major props. |
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10-23-2017, 10:04 AM | #72 |
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Who cares if he has the lyrics in front of him? I think we’re digging a little too deep here to complain about something.
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10-23-2017, 10:10 AM | #73 |
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Or we've just exhausted the obvious theme (the music) after 17 years of suckage.
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10-23-2017, 10:12 AM | #74 |
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10-23-2017, 11:21 AM | #75 |
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He probably doesn't need them for the shit he's sung millions of times but I could see it for stuff he hasn't broken out in years like Friends as Lovers.
Toronto show wasn't totally empty, maybe the back few rows. |
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10-23-2017, 03:11 PM | #76 |
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setlists from the last couple of shows anyone?
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10-23-2017, 04:54 PM | #77 |
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10/14: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/billy...-2be3e4a2.html
10/15: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/billy...-3be3d828.html 10/18: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/billy...-43e3cff3.html 10/19: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/billy...-23e3284b.html 10/20: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/billy...-5be33fbc.html |
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10-23-2017, 07:26 PM | #78 | |
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And ask yourself this, how much heart and soul can you put into a performance when you're literally reading along as you're singing? It's super weak and displays a lack of pride in his craft. A stageshow is an important part of being a musician and watching a guy up on stage who can't even remember the words? It's bunk to the highest degree. |
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10-23-2017, 07:38 PM | #79 | |
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10-23-2017, 07:41 PM | #80 |
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Billy Corgan reminds me of this kid that I performed with once in a high-school battle of the bands. We prepared and performed a handful of cover songs. But the dumbass that we had singing couldn't remember the lyrics, so he was literally standing up on stage holding a print-off of the lyrics in his hand, reading along to them as he sang. Even so, I think we were one of the better bands, but one of the judges told me later that we didn't place because it looked bad with the guy reading the lyrics off of a sheet of paper like that.
It was a common sense rationale for most people... |
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10-23-2017, 07:45 PM | #81 |
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10-23-2017, 07:45 PM | #82 |
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it is lame but it's not that big a deal. pretty sure you being that bothered by it is sillier than corgan doing it
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10-23-2017, 07:50 PM | #83 |
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I'm not bothered. There's no way in hell I'd pay that kind of money to see Billy sitting up there alone acting all pretentious displaying his primary level piano playing. Having the lyrics clearly displayed right in front of him is simply another example of Corgan displaying more bloated rock star cliches.
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10-23-2017, 07:56 PM | #84 |
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you realize he did this for years, right? pre-gig shows and during main shows. the only difference is he is now using an ipad instead of having the sheet music with lyrics in front of him and he's doing it for the entire show instead of parts of it.
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10-23-2017, 08:53 PM | #85 |
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Naw, in this case I think Billy should learn the words. It's not like he's performing for 3 hours.
It comes off as lazy and unrehearsed. If you're paying for a ticket to an 'intimate' performance -you don't want to see the performer reading off a fucking ipad. It's not exactly characteristic of an authentic, hearfelt experience. |
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10-23-2017, 08:54 PM | #86 |
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yea dude you're wacked
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10-23-2017, 08:56 PM | #87 |
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Yeah, I remember seeing a video from 2000 I think on Youtube where he was reading a teleprompter for Zero. It's always rubbed me the wrong way. But it seems to be a "rock-star" thing. I just don't get it.
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10-23-2017, 09:09 PM | #88 | |
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I mean, so what if he forgets a few lyrics? It's supposed to be a spontaneous performance. If you forget a few lyrics, free style, change them, sing what you feel. Let the song evolve. These bloated rock star antics are part of the reason why people always shit on the guy. |
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10-23-2017, 10:12 PM | #89 |
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Yeah, I'd rather him forget a few lyrics. That recent show where he forgot to change his harmonica was a great little moment, and the crowd loved it.
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10-23-2017, 11:29 PM | #90 |
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It's funny to think how nobody would ever pay to watch "William Patrick Corgan" play "Ogilala songs." It's only because he's diving deep into The Smashing Pumpkins back catalog that it's watchable.
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