D'arcy's first interview in 20 years with Alternative Nation is up!.

[FlamingGlobes]

You know, like when I poop at work.

[FlamingGlobes]

Would definitely be taking Casual Friday to a new low, though.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

You dare insult my fatherland?!? Oh, it's on, bro! IT'S ON!!!

Having a bomb affair with your father...

#nukeserbia

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by Squish Squash

Jesus Christ, Pave. Not saying brothaiha isn't a POS, but god damn.

what? she was being kind!

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

What zipper? I believe the thing in the zipper area belong to her shirt, drawstrings.

why would a shirt like that need drawstrings?
if they're drawstrings, they belong to the trousers.

[FlamingGlobes]

Omega Concern to thread

[Cool As Ice Cream]

"clearly two false flags. the zipper sheeple fell for it, once again. "

[themadcaplaughs]

Originally Posted by Squish Squash

I don't think Jimmy or James have really said anything about her. It's between her and Billy. Not sure how D was mean-spirited in that interview, she was clearly very hurt and venting. Billy treated her like shit for a long time.

Not denying anything you said. Regarding James and Jimmy, both have said they kept a "hand-off" approach to the situation, but that they knew Billy tried to work with her on getting her to jam/record/reunite with the band. Also, it could be that more of her mean-spirited statements came from the comments she left on the web site, but between the two I remember her saying:

-She doesn't get addicted to drugs and can stop cold turkey at anytime.
-She's stronger and more physical able than anyone in the band (which, in all fairness, is probably true, but still a strange thing to bring up).
-She thinks Billy might have a brain tumor like this mother did.
-She was the only one in the band who could keep time and it was Billy and Jimmy who were sloppy and kept her from playing to her full ability.
-Also, anytime Buttcannon asked for specifics (e.g., when did you and Billy talk, how often did you talk before the reunion, was there any management involvement) she changes the subject.

Could very well be that everything she said was true, and like I said, it all falls on Billy if that turns out to be the case. That being said, the interview certainly did not make her seem like a person completely in touch with reality. Also, she gave an interview to Alternative Nation and another statement and photo to some random website. It seems like she could have gone to a more reputable source to really get her side of the story in he open.

[Ram27]

that all sounds insane besides the tumor part

[Corgan's Bluff]

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/b...darcy-wretzky/

BILLY CORGAN ON WHETHER D’ARCY WRETZKY WILL EVER REJOIN SMASHING PUMPKINS: “THAT’S A DEAD END”
"She made it very clear that the bridge is burned"

By
Daniel Seah
4th December 2020

Billy Corgan has reiterated that there’s no chance of Smashing Pumpkins’ original bassist D’arcy Wretzky rejoining the band.

Speaking to Premier Guitar in an interview about the band’s latest album, Cyr, the frontman shut down any possibility of Wretzky returning to the fold. “D’arcy, that’s a dead end. That’s what I always tell people: She made it very clear that the bridge is burned,” he said.

Corgan then also brought up the period from 2016 to 2018 that he and Wretzky had reconnected, saying they were in fact trying to better their relationship, before it all soured again. “One thing I’d like to point out, her and I spoke for two years before it turned into a public fiasco,” he said.

“So we had two years of conversations about making amends and trying to put some pieces back together. So no one was more disappointed than I that not only did it end poorly, it turned into some stupid clickbait thing.”

In 2018, Wretzky gave her first public interview in 20 years, where she denied being invited back to the Smashing Pumpkins. Wretzky further substantiated her claims by sharing a lengthy text conversation between Corgan and herself publicly on Facebook [per Consequence Of Sound].

Fans have long pined for a reunion of the band’s original lineup. By the release of 2018’s Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1, original guitarist James Iha and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin had returned to the Pumpkins entirely; Wretzky, however, was noticeably absent.

Admitting that some wounds between Iha, Chamberlain and himself still run deep, Corgan said in the interview, “In the case of us three, we chose to make the band more important.”

“It’s not like we don’t have issues. It’s not like we’re magically okay and somebody else isn’t. The issues are there; we’re a family, we go through them,” he said. “The way the three of us have chosen to deal with that is to put it through the band and put it through the music.”

“At the end of the day, I was made out to be this evil person but the decision was [Wretzky’s].”

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JaJa, it was D'arcy's decision alone not to be part of Corgan's kind of family business...

[TheAlter]

Even with D'arcy back in the band it'd still be Biff Tannen Hell Valley. Bill Tannen, that is.

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/b...darcy-wretzky/

BILLY CORGAN ON WHETHER D’ARCY WRETZKY WILL EVER REJOIN SMASHING PUMPKINS: “THAT’S A DEAD END”
"She made it very clear that the bridge is burned"

By
Daniel Seah
4th December 2020

Billy Corgan has reiterated that there’s no chance of Smashing Pumpkins’ original bassist D’arcy Wretzky rejoining the band.

Speaking to Premier Guitar in an interview about the band’s latest album, Cyr, the frontman shut down any possibility of Wretzky returning to the fold. “D’arcy, that’s a dead end. That’s what I always tell people: She made it very clear that the bridge is burned,” he said.

Corgan then also brought up the period from 2016 to 2018 that he and Wretzky had reconnected, saying they were in fact trying to better their relationship, before it all soured again. “One thing I’d like to point out, her and I spoke for two years before it turned into a public fiasco,” he said.

“So we had two years of conversations about making amends and trying to put some pieces back together. So no one was more disappointed than I that not only did it end poorly, it turned into some stupid clickbait thing.”

In 2018, Wretzky gave her first public interview in 20 years, where she denied being invited back to the Smashing Pumpkins. Wretzky further substantiated her claims by sharing a lengthy text conversation between Corgan and herself publicly on Facebook [per Consequence Of Sound].

Fans have long pined for a reunion of the band’s original lineup. By the release of 2018’s Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1, original guitarist James Iha and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin had returned to the Pumpkins entirely; Wretzky, however, was noticeably absent.

Admitting that some wounds between Iha, Chamberlain and himself still run deep, Corgan said in the interview, “In the case of us three, we chose to make the band more important.”

“It’s not like we don’t have issues. It’s not like we’re magically okay and somebody else isn’t. The issues are there; we’re a family, we go through them,” he said. “The way the three of us have chosen to deal with that is to put it through the band and put it through the music.”

“At the end of the day, I was made out to be this evil person but the decision was [Wretzky’s].”

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JaJa, it was D'arcy's decision alone not to be part of Corgan's kind of family business...

and whose decision was it that Darcy was not going to play with Grave Next Door?

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

and whose decision was it that Darcy was not going to play with Grave Next Door?

Netphoria's decision By sending her a link to this thread with rude comments about her ex-boyfriend's band:

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...187302&page=15

[Forgotten Child]

It's everybody else's fault but Darcy. Right.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

It's everybody else's fault but Darcy. Right.

Would be childish to think so...
They only managed things with her so poorly that things had to get worse than necessary.

[slippedonshoe]

D'arcy should be glad she got so far in the music business without any real talent. If it hadn't been for evil Billy, we wouldn't be here talking about her.

[run2pee]

So u bump this thread to troll with the “darcy had no talent” routine?

If it weren’t for her, Jimmy, and James, big willie would probably be working in a warehouse, or dead

So there, u big dumb dumb

[slippedonshoe]

Yeah, cos D'Arcy is a highly sought after musician and songwriter. I wonder who the real troll is.

[FoolofaTook]

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by slippedonshoe

Yeah, cos D'Arcy is a highly sought after musician and songwriter. I wonder who the real troll is.

Ok i will grant u that big willie might have persevered thru his severe mental trauma and NPD to, eventually, rise to the lustrous heights of penning furniture store jingles

Talkin great jingles that get stuck in your head and make u wanna buy that corner cabinet

But without the other 3, nobody would have give shits about big willies self-absorbed yodeling, or his lukewarm robert smith imitation

[slunken]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Lol look at these unattractive monsters that tall guy is probably swimming in less-than pussy

[FoolofaTook]

yeah but they got infiltrated by isis

[slunken]

[srt4b]

Originally Posted by slunken

Lol look at these unattractive monsters that tall guy is probably swimming in less-than pussy

they seem quite happy tho

[FoolofaTook]

I think he was being sarcastic, though it can be hard to tell with troll lord slunken.

Tbh some them are total busty babes, guy on the left's hella cute in a hamster kind of way, and the white dude looks like he's hung like whatcolor.



I was totally joking about the isis thing. I am NOT a racist.

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

Lol @ all that merch they are wearing, it fucking SUCKS

[teh b0lly!!1]

/r/sadcringe

[teh b0lly!!1]

hearts and prayers to the one girl on the top right without an SP shirt on getting clawed by serial rapist guy

[reprise85]

looks like pumpkins to me

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by reprise85

looks like pumpkins to me

hahaha
i hadn't noticed that