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Old 10-29-2006, 11:11 PM   #1
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Post "something is being created which millions of people are holding their breath over"

here's a positive article. ok read, but nothing new.

http://racketscan.blogspot.com/2006/...-smashing.html

DISCLAIMER: this is a band history, written by someone who is obviously a fan, bookended by some baseless conjecture about millions of people awaiting the triumphant return of the great pumpkin

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Old 10-29-2006, 11:24 PM   #2
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hey man, if i get a blogger account and post something about how awesome the new pumpkins album will be, will you start a thread here about it?

btw do you know this guy personally

 
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:37 PM   #3
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maybe...if you write eloquently and get picked up in a search.
question is, will you click and read a thread about it?

and no, i don't know this person. random bloggers are the Greg Kots of tomorrow. what makes their comments carry any more or less weight than a random staff-writer of a music mag? they all just listen to the music and then write about it subjectively.

interesting to see reactions to the news, whether positive or negative, from people who don't scrutinize and over-analyse everything. almost like "taking the pulse" of the public.

 
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this is a band history, written by someone who is obviously a fan, bookended by some baseless conjecture about millions of people awaiting the triumphant return of the great pumpkin

if you think this is written by some random member of the public with no special affinity for the smashing pumpkins, well, i don't know what to say to you

 
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there you go LDS, fixed just for you. maybe now you can sleep at night.

 
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you better be sorry, davin

 
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i was about to commit sepuku...then i remembered how awesome applejacks taste, and decided i want to live!

A is for apple. J is for jacks.

 
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there you go LDS, fixed just for you. maybe now you can sleep at night.
hey why don't you post a thread linking to the smashing pumpkins article on wikipedia

"ok read but nothing new!" you could say

 
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don't tempt me...i just might.

then what're you gonna do??!?!! when PUMPKINmania, explodes all over you!

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~markro/images/hulk2.jpg

 
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The Smashing Pumpkins
The Smashing Pumpkins, circa 1991.
The Smashing Pumpkins, circa 1991.
Background information
Origin Chicago, Illinois, USA
Genre(s) Alternative rock
Years active 1988 – 2000, 2006 - present
Label(s) Virgin Records
Website Official site
Members
Billy Corgan
Jimmy Chamberlin
Former members
James Iha
D'arcy Wretzky
Melissa Auf der Maur

The Smashing Pumpkins[1] are a popular American alternative rock band which formed in Chicago in 1988. Although the band has seen several line-up changes, they have consisted of Billy Corgan (vocals/guitar), James Iha (guitar/vocals), D'arcy Wretzky (bass/backup vocals) and Jimmy Chamberlin (drums) for the majority of their recording career.

Considered less influenced by punk rock than many of their contemporaries, the Pumpkins have a diverse, densely layered and guitar-heavy sound, containing elements of gothic rock, heavy metal, dream pop, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, shoegazer-style production and, in later recordings, electronica. The emotional tone of frontman Billy Corgan’s songwriting ranges from angry (“Bullet with Butterfly Wings”), to dour (“Disarm”), to jubilant (“Cherub Rock”).

Having sold approximately 18.3 million albums in the United States alone as of 2006,[2] the Smashing Pumpkins were one of the most commercially successful and critically acclaimed bands of the 1990s, but internal fighting, drug use, and diminishing sales and cultural vitality hampered the band in their later years and led to a 2000 break-up. In April of 2006, the band officially announced that they were reuniting and recording a new album. So far, the only confirmed band members are Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin.[3]
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* 1 Early days: 1988-1991
* 2 Mainstream success: 1992-1994
* 3 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness: 1995-1997
* 4 Adore, MACHINA, and breakup: 1998-2000
* 5 Post breakup
* 6 The reunion
o 6.1 Official announcement
* 7 Musical style and influences
* 8 Selected discography
* 9 See also
* 10 References
* 11 Footnotes
* 12 External links

[edit] Early days: 1988-1991

At the age of 19, singer and guitarist Billy Corgan left his native Chicago, Illinois, moving to St. Petersburg, Florida with his gothic rock band The Marked, so called because of the birth marks on his and his drummer's hands. The band had limited success and quickly dissolved. Corgan returned to Chicago, taking a job in a record store. While working there, he met guitarist James Iha. Adorning themselves with paisley and other psychedelic trappings, the two began writing songs together (with the aid of a drum machine) that were heavily influenced by The Cure and New Order.[4] Corgan met bassist D'arcy Wretzky in 1988 after a show by the Dan Reed Network where they argued the merits of the band. After finding out Wretzky played bass, Corgan stated his band's need for a bassist and gave Wretzky his telephone number. Wretzky soon joined the band, and she and Iha would eventually have a short-lived personal relationship.[5]

The first performance of The Smashing Pumpkins was on July 9, 1988 at the Polish bar Chicago 21. However, this performance only *******d Corgan and Iha with a drum machine.[6] On August 10, 1988, the band played for the first time as a trio at the Avalon Nightclub.[7] After this show, Cabaret Metro owner Joe Shanahan agreed to book the band provided they threw out the drum machine and recruit a live drummer. Jazz drummer Jimmy Chamberlin was recruited for the band after a recommendation from a friend of Corgan's.[7] The addition of Chamberlin was at first an unlikely match, as Chamberlin knew nothing of alternative music at the time. As Corgan recalled of the period, "We were completely into the sad-rock, Cure kind of thing. It took about two or three practices before I realized that the power in his playing was something that enabled us to rock harder than we could ever have imagined".[4] On October 5, 1988, the complete band took the stage for the first time at the Cabaret Metro.[7] Although not an official member of the band at this point, Chamberlin would soon be announced as such, and the complete four-person lineup from this first show at the Metro would be unchanged for the next seven years.
The band in 1990
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The band in 1990

In 1989, the group had recorded a handful of demo tapes, which appeared later on the bootleg release Early 1989 Demos. Their first appearance on vinyl happened that same year when they appeared on the compilation album Light Into Dark with other Chicago alternative bands. They released their first record, a limited edition single of "I Am One", in 1990 on local Chicago label Limited Potential. The single sold out and they released another single, "Tristessa", on Sub Pop, after which they signed to Caroline Records.[8] The Smashing Pumpkins recorded their 1991 debut album Gish with Sonic Youth producer Butch Vig in his own studio, Smart Studios in Madison, Wisconsin, for $20,000.[9] In order to gain the consistency he desired, Corgan often played all instruments save drums, which created tension in the band. The music fused heavy metal guitars, psychedelia and dream pop, garnering them comparisons to Jane's Addiction.[10] Gish became a minor success, with the single "Rhinoceros" receiving some airplay in Modern Rock radio. After releasing the Lull EP in October 1991 on Caroline Records, the band formally signed with Virgin Records which was affiliated with Caroline.[8] The band supported the album with a tour that *******d opening for bands such as the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jane's Addiction, and Guns N' Roses. During the tour, Iha and Wretzky went through a messy breakup, Chamberlin became addicted to narcotics and alcohol and Corgan entered a deep depression,[11] writing some songs for the upcoming album in the parking garage where he lived at the time.[12]


[edit] Mainstream success: 1992-1994

With the breakthrough of alternative rock into the American mainstream due to the popularity of grunge bands such as Nirvana and Pearl Jam, the Smashing Pumpkins were poised for major commercial success. At this time, and amid their protests, the Pumpkins were routinely lumped in with the grunge movement due to their cathartic sound and heavy metal influences such as Black Sabbath. In a Halloween night interview on MTV's 120 Minutes in 1993, Corgan remarked, "We've graduated now from [being called] 'the next Jane's Addiction' to 'the next Nirvana', now we're 'the next Pearl Jam.'"[13] The group nevertheless contributed the song "Drown" to the platinum-selling soundtrack of the 1992 movie Singles, a film set in the Seattle grunge music scene.
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* "Disarm" (file info) — play in browser (beta)
o Sample of "Disarm", the successful third single from Siamese Dream (1993), described by a reviewer as showing "the band had just as much of a knack with the volume turned down as up"[14]
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Corgan said that in the wake of Nirvana's landmark 1991 album Nevermind, "We felt a great pressure that if we didn't come up with a record that was huge, we were done. It was that simple in our minds. We felt like our lives depended on it".[4] Feeling enormous critical and commercial pressure, Corgan's depression deepened to the point where he contemplated suicide.[15] To counteract his depression, Corgan worked overtime, saying he practically lived in the studio for the 1993 follow-up album, Siamese Dream. The album was recorded at Triclops Sound Studios in Atlanta, Georgia, mostly between December 1992 and March 1993, with Butch Vig reprising his role as producer; the band lived in Marietta during the Siamese Dream recording sessions. The decision to record so far away from their hometown was motivated partially to keep away from local friends and distractions during the recording, but largely as a desperate attempt to cut Chamberlin off from his known drug connections.[4] In this respect, the strategy failed miserably, as Chamberlin quickly managed to find new connections and often was absent without any contact for days at a time.[4]

The recording environment was fraught with difficulty. The band fought constantly. Contemporary music press portrayed Corgan as somewhat of a tyrant during the recording sessions (accusations that Corgan admitted there was some truth to, although he felt the press misunderstood the situation),[16] with rumors circulating that he had recorded all the guitar and bass parts himself. It was never confirmed exactly how much each member participated on the album; Corgan did say he performed a majority of the guitar work, but only because he could record tracks and parts in far fewer takes.[17] In all, it took over four months to complete the record with the budget exceeding $250,000. The troubles surrounding the recording sessions did not hamper the band's chances of success, however. Siamese Dream debuted at number 10 on the Billboard charts, sold four million copies in the U.S. alone, and garnered the Pumpkins international attention for the videos for the songs "Today" and "Disarm" through heavy rotation on MTV.
The band performing "Geek U.S.A." live with 50 professional clowns onstage after they were told they would be presented however they wished on tour.
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The band performing "Geek U.S.A." live with 50 professional clowns onstage after they were told they would be presented however they wished on tour. [18]

While the Pumpkins were successful, they weren't universally adored by the alternative rock community. Accusations of careerism by the indie scene were levied against the band since its early days.[6] Indie rock band Pavement's 1994 song "Range Life" refers to the band with the lines "I don't understand what they mean/And I could really give a fuck" which have been widely interpreted as an insult (although Stephen Malkmus, lead singer of Pavement, has stated "I never dissed their music. I just dissed their status.").[19] Former Hüsker Dü frontman Bob Mould called them "the grunge Monkees",[4] and fellow Chicago musician/producer Steve Albini wrote a scathing letter in response to an article praising the band where he countered the Pumpkins were no more alternative than REO Speedwagon and determined them "by, of and for the mainstream" and "ultimately insignificant".[20] Others such as Courtney Love of Hole (who dated Corgan before marrying Nirvana's Kurt Cobain) were vocal supporters of the band.

In 1994, Virgin released the B-sides/rarities compilation Pisces Iscariot which outperformed Siamese Dream by reaching number four on the Billboard charts. Also released was a VHS cassette titled Vieuphoria featuring a mix of live performances and behind-the-scenes footage. Following relentless touring to support the recordings, including headline slots on the 1994 Lollapalooza tour and at Reading Festival in 1995, the band took time off to write the follow-up album.

[edit] Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness: 1995-1997

Corgan worked non-stop over the next year and wrote, according to statements in interviews, about 56 songs for the next album.[21] Following this spell of concentrated creativity, the Pumpkins went back into the studio with producers Flood and Alan Moulder to work on what Corgan described as "The Wall for Generation X,"[22] a comparison with Pink Floyd's famous double concept album.
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* "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" (file info) — play in browser (beta)
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* "1979" (file info) — play in browser (beta)
o Sample of "1979", the second single from Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (1995). The band's biggest hit and a precursor to their change in style.
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The result was Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, a double album release featuring 28 songs and lasting over 2 hours (the vinyl version of the album contained three records, two extra songs and an alternate tracklisting). The songs were intended to hang together conceptually as a symbol of the cycle of life and death.[6] Praised by Time as "the group's most ambitious and accomplished work yet",[23]Mellon Collie debuted at number one on the Billboard charts in October 1995 and was even more successful than Siamese Dream, selling over sixteen million copies worldwide. At the time, the album was the best-selling double album of the decade.[24] It also garnered seven 1996 Grammy Award nominations, including Album of the Year. The album spawned five singles--"Bullet with Butterfly Wings", "1979", "Zero", "Tonight, Tonight", and "Thirty-Three"--of which the first three were certified gold and all but "Zero" entered the Top 40. Many of the remaining songs that did not make it onto Mellon Collie were released as B-sides to the singles, and were eventually compiled in The Aeroplane Flies High box set. As a testament to the band's popularity at the time, Virgin Records originally intended to limit the set to 200,000 copies, but produced more after the original run sold out due to overwhelming and unexpected demand.[25]
The band's striking new image during the Mellon Collie tour.
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The band's striking new image during the Mellon Collie tour.

Along with the success of the album, the band found commercial and critical acclaim with music videos. The '"1979" and "Tonight, Tonight" videos combined to win 7 MTV Video Music Awards at the 1996 ceremony, including the top award, Video of the Year, going to "Tonight, Tonight". The video was also nominated for 3 Grammys at the 1997 ceremony. The critical success of these videos was met with equal fervor from fans. Of the "Tonight, Tonight" video, Corgan remarked, "I don't think we've ever had people react [like this]...it just seemed to touch a nerve."[26]This marked perhaps the moment of the band's greatest popularity. With considerable play on MTV, "Zero" shirts commonly sold in malls, and awards from major organizations, the band was considered one the most dominant and popular bands of the time.[27][28]

In 1996, the Pumpkins embarked on a massive world tour in support of Mellon Collie. Corgan's look--a shaved head, a longsleeve black shirt with the word "Zero" printed on it, and silver pants--was an iconic image of the period.[29] The band also made a guest appearance in an episode of The Simpsons in 1996 titled "Homerpalooza". However, the year was not an entirely positive one for the band. In May 1996, the Smashing Pumpkins played a gig at The Point Theatre in Dublin, Ireland. The venue was overcrowded and despite the band's repeated requests for moshing to stop, a 17 year old fan named Bernadette O'Brien was crushed to death. The concert ended early and the following night's performance in Belfast was cancelled out of respect for her.[30] Despite Corgan’s protestations that moshing’s “time [had] come and gone,” the band would continue to request open-floor concerts throughout the rest of the tour.[31]

The band suffered a personal tragedy on the night of July 11, 1996, when touring keyboardist Jonathan Melvoin and Chamberlin overdosed on heroin in a hotel room in New York City. Melvoin died, and Chamberlin was arrested for drug possession. A few days later the band issued a statement notifying the public that Chamberlin had been fired as a result of the incident.[32] Though the band finished the tour with another drummer and keyboardist, in retrospect Corgan called it the worst decision the band ever made, damaging themselves and their reputation in the long run.[4] Meanwhile the band had given interviews since the release of Mellon Collie stating that it would be the last conventional Pumpkins record,[33] and that rock was becoming stale. James Iha said at the end of 1996, "The future is in electronic music. It really seems boring just to play rock music."[34]

 
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Adore, MACHINA, and breakup: 1998-2000

After the release of Mellon Collie, the Pumpkins contributed three songs to various compilations. One of these was "The End is the Beginning is the End" (also appearing in a revamped form as "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning") for the Batman & Robin soundtrack. Despite Chamberlin's absence, the song featured a heavy sound not unlike "Bullet With Butterfly Wings." The song later won the 1998 Grammy for Best Hard Rock Performance. Despite this, the group's sound turned drastically away from guitar-driven rock with two additional songs from compilations: "Christmastime" from A Very Special Christmas 3 and "Eye" from Lost Highway. Both contributions relied heavily on electronic influences and served as precursors to the group's next album.
The band as a trio in 1998.
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The band as a trio in 1998.

Recorded following the death of Corgan's mother and his divorce, 1998's Adore represented a significant change of style from the Pumpkins' previous guitar-based rock, veering into electronica. Trimming much of the guitar-driven sonic underpinnings, the record was cut using drum machines and was infused with a slightly darker aesthetic. The group also modified its public image, shedding its alternative hipster look for a dark Gothic persona. Although Adore received favorable reviews and was nominated for Best Alternative Performance at the Grammy Awards, the album had only sold about 830,000 copies in the United States by the end of the year, which lead the music industry to consider it a failure;[35] the album nonetheless sold three times as many copies overseas.[4]

On June 30, 1998 the band embarked on a 17-date, 15-city charity tour. At each stop on the tour, the band donated 100% of tickets sales to a local charity organization. This act of charity caused the band to lose money on the tour due to the costs incurred, which had to be entirely funded from the band's own pockets. All told, the band donated over $2.8 million to charity as the result of this tour.[36]

The band's lineup changed again with the recording of 2000's MACHINA/The Machines of God. The rehiring of a rehabilitated Jimmy Chamberlin signaled a return to a more familiar Pumpkins sound for the album, yet Wretzky departed the band after the recording sessions concluded. Former Hole bassist Melissa Auf der Maur was recruited for the "Sacred and Profane" tour in support of the album. Auf der Maur also appeared in the videos accompanying the album.
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* "The Everlasting Gaze" (file info) — play in browser (beta)
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MACHINA was initially promoted as the Pumpkins' return to form, after the more gothic, electronic-sounding Adore; however, on its release, many reviewers and fans took issue with the album's "Wall of Sound" production, finding that what was intended to have been a reappearance of the band's signature hard rock sound had been overprocessed — in particular, stripping away the warmth and nuance for which Iha's and Corgan's guitar work had become known.[citation needed] In addition, many longtime fans became disenchanted with the conceptual nature of the album and its mystical and spiritual themes. The album debuted at number 3 on the Billboard charts, but quickly disappeared and as of 2006 has only been certified gold.[37][38] Music journalist Jim DeRogatis, who described the album as "one of the strongest of their career," noted that the stalled sales fof MACHINA in comparison to teen pop ascendant at the time "seems like concrete proof that a new wave of young pop fans has turned a deaf ear toward alternative rock."[39]
The band's touring line-up in 2000 with Chamberlin back on drums and Melissa Auf der Maur replacing Wretzky on bass.
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The band's touring line-up in 2000 with Chamberlin back on drums and Melissa Auf der Maur replacing Wretzky on bass.

On May 23, 2000 in a live radio interview on KROQ (Los Angeles), Billy Corgan announced the band's decision to break up at the end of that year following additional touring and recording.[40] The group's final album before the break-up, MACHINA II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music, was released in September 2000 in a limited pressing on vinyl with permission and instructions for free redistribution on the Internet by fans. Only 25 copies were cut, each of which was hand numbered and given to friends of the band along with band members themselves. The album contained 1 LP and 3 EPs released under the Constantinople Records label, created by Corgan. This is the only Smashing Pumpkins album released that is not under the Virgin Records label. Originally, the band asked Virgin to offer Machina II as a free download to anyone who bought Machina. When the record label declined, Corgan opted to release the material independently.[41]

On December 2, 2000, the Smashing Pumpkins played their final concert at The Metro, the same Chicago club where their career had effectively started twelve years earlier. To commemorate this, and as a special thank you to their fans, attendees at the concert were given a recording of the band’s first concert at The Metro, Live at Cabaret Metro 10-5-88. The Smashing Pumpkins' final commercial recording was a single, "Untitled", released to coincide with the final show. A video of the entire 4 hour concert (3 main sets and 4 encores in total) has yet to be released, though a video of the final performance of "Fuck You (An Ode to No One)" is *******d on the Greatest Hits Video Collection (1991-2000) DVD.

[edit] Post breakup

2001 saw the release of a greatest hits compilation, Rotten Apples (Greatest Hits), which *******d various singles spanning their career. The double disc version of the album, released as a limited edition, *******d a B-sides/rarities collection called Judas Ø. The Greatest Hits Video Collection DVD was also released around the same time, which compiled all of the Pumpkins promo videos from Gish to MACHINA along with unreleased material.[42] Vieuphoria was released on DVD in 2002, as was the soundtrack album Earphoria, previously only released to radio stations in 1994.
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Billy Corgan and Chamberlin would reunite in 2001 as members of Corgan's next project, the shortlived supergroup Zwan. Their only album, Mary Star of the Sea, was released to generally positive reviews, and after cancelling a few festival appearances Corgan announced the demise of the band in 2003 under cloudy circumstances. During 2001 Corgan also toured as part of New Order and provided vocals on their comeback album 'Get Ready'. In October 2004, Corgan released his first book, a collection of poetry entitled Blinking with Fists. In June 2005 he released a solo album titled TheFutureEmbrace. It was greeted with generally mixed reviews and lackluster sales. Only one single, "Walking Shade," was released in support of the album.

On February 17, 2004, Corgan posted a bitter message on his personal blog calling Wretzky a "mean-spirited drug addict" and blaming Iha for the breakup of The Smashing Pumpkins.[43] On June 3, 2004, he added that "the depth of my hurt [from Iha] is only matched with the depth of my gratitude".[44] Iha responded to Corgan's claims in 2005 by saying "No, I didn't break up the band. The only person who could have done that is Billy".[45]
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Jimmy Chamberlin married longtime girlfriend Lori in April of 2002, and they had a daughter, Audrey, who was born in December of that year. During 2004 and 2005, Jimmy Chamberlin pursued a hobby in car-racing in Florida. He also formed an alternative rock/jazz fusion project band called The Jimmy Chamberlin Complex. They released an album in 2005 titled Life Begins Again. Corgan provided guest vocals on a track titled "Lokicat."
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James Iha served as a guitarist in A Perfect Circle, appearing on their Thirteenth Step club tour, and their 2004 album eMOTIVe. He has also been involved with other acts such as Chino Moreno's Team Sleep, and Vanessa and the O's. He continues to work with his own record label as well, Scratchie Records. He is currently living in New York.
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D'arcy Wretzky has not made any public statements or appearances nor given any interviews since her departure in 1999. On January 25, 2000, she was arrested after she allegedly purchased three bags of crack cocaine, but after successfully completing a court-ordered drug education program, the charges were dropped. [46] She currently resides in Watervliet, Michigan, where she owns a horse farm and three antique shops. [citation needed] One of the horses D'arcy owns, "Jet Set Miss", was accepted into the Arabian Horse Pilot Program in August 2000 after passing inspection in Romeo, Michigan. [47]
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Melissa Auf der Maur released her solo record Auf der Maur on June 1, 2004. It consisted of material she had written over a decade while she played with Tinker, Hole and the Pumpkins, and it featured some notable guest musicians including James Iha. The same year, she appeared on the CBC television program The Greatest Canadian, as David Suzuki's celebrity advocate. She also has been on tours with bands such as HIM and Matthew Good.

[edit] The reunion
Billy Corgan's Chicago Tribune ad, announcing his intention to reform the Smashing Pumpkins
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Billy Corgan's Chicago Tribune ad, announcing his intention to reform the Smashing Pumpkins

On June 21, 2005, the day of the release of his album TheFutureEmbrace, Corgan took out a full-page advertisement in the Chicago Tribune newspaper to announce that he planned to reunite the band. "For a year now," Corgan wrote, "I have walked around with a secret, a secret I chose to keep. But now I want you to be among the first to know that I have made plans to renew and revive the Smashing Pumpkins. I want my band back, and my songs, and my dreams."[48] Corgan appeared on Chicago morning television to discuss the advertisement and his new album, but gave little elaboration to the actual newspaper advertisement.

While performing at various drum clinics across Europe in September 2005, Jimmy Chamberlin confirmed that both a reunion tour and a new album were planned to begin in February 2006.[49] On February 2, 2006, MTV.com reported that Corgan and Chamberlin had signed a new management deal with the Front Line Management, with Melissa Auf Der Maur confirming that the pair were currently working on an album of new material.[50] The only original members confirmed as of yet are Corgan and Chamberlin, but Auf Der Maur was quoted as saying "My services are always there to play my favorite songs. If D'arcy [Wretzky] is not available, I'm always happy to be second in line."[51]

[edit] Official announcement

On April 20, 2006, the band's official website, www.smashingpumpkins.com announced the reunion stating, "It's official. The Smashing Pumpkins are currently writing songs for their upcoming album, their first since 1999." [52] The website later reported that the new album would be produced by Roy Thomas Baker, who produced many of Queen's albums, including A Night at the Opera.[53]. According to a MySpace blog posting by Jimmy Chamberlin on October 20th, 2006 they finished work with Roy Thomas Baker and have also enlisted help from producer Terry Date, who has worked with Limp Bizkit, Pantera, and Soundgarden.[54] Corgan and Chamberlin are verified as members of the band; however, Iha and Wretzky have not stated any involvement in the reunion.

[edit] Musical style and influences
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o Sample of "Cherub Rock" from Siamese Dream (1993) which features layers of guitar overdubs influenced by arena rock and shoegaze, as well as repeated use of "the Pumpkin chord."
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The Smashing Pumpkins' distinctive sound up until Adore consisted of layering numerous guitar tracks onto a song during the recording process, a tactic which Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness coproducer Flood dubbed the "Pumpkin guitar overdub army".[33] There were a few overdubbed parts on Gish but Corgan began to really explore the possibilities of overdubbing with Siamese Dream; Corgan has stated that "Soma" alone contains up to 40 overdubbed guitar parts.[55] While Corgan knew many of the songs would be difficult or impossible to replicate from their recorded versions in concert (in fact, some songs were drastically altered for live performance), he has explained the use of overdubbing by posing the question "When you are faced with making a permanent recorded representation of a song, why not endow it with the grandest possible vision?"[56] This use of multilayered sounds was inspired by Corgan's love of 1970s arena rock bands Queen, Boston, and Electric Light Orchestra,[55] as well as shoegaze, a British style of alternative rock from the late 1980s and early 1990s that relied on swirling layers of guitar noise for effect. Mellon Collie coproducer Alan Moulder was originally hired to mix Siamese Dream because Corgan was a fan of his work producing shoegaze bands such as My Bloody Valentine, Ride, and Slowdive.[57]

Like many contemporary alternative bands, the Smashing Pumpkins utilized shifts in song dynamics, going from quiet to loud and vice versa. Hüsker Dü's seminal album Zen Arcade was an influence in demonstrating how the band could place gentler material against more aggressive fare,[4] and Corgan used these dynamics to achieve his goal of crafting a grand musical vision.[58] Corgan said he liked the idea of creating his own alternative universe through sound that essentially told the listener "Welcome to Pumpkin Land, this is what it sounds like on Planet Pumpkin".[59] This emphasis on atmosphere carried through to Adore (described as "arcane night music" in prerelease promotion)[60] and the MACHINA albums (which served as concept records that told a story about a fictional rock band).[4]

The Pumpkins drew influence from a variety of other genres, some of which were considered unfashionable at the time by critics. Corgan in particular was open about his appreciation of heavy metal, citing Dimebag Darrell of Pantera as his favorite comtemporary guitarist[33][61] and raving about Black Sabbath's Master of Reality and Judas Priest's Unleashed in the East during an interview after the journalist commented to Corgan and Iha that "Smashing Pumpkins is one of the groups that relegitimized heavy metal" and that they "were among the first alternative rockers to mention people like Ozzy and Black Sabbath with anything other than contempt."[33] In particular the song "Zero" was an example of what the band dubbed "cybermetal" since it reminded Iha especially of Judas Priest.[62] Post-punk and gothic rock bands like Joy Division/New Order, Bauhaus, The Cure, and Depeche Mode were formative influences on the band, and the band would cover such artists in concert and on record. Psychedelic rock was also referenced often in the band's music, originally incorporated as a reaction to trends in the indie scene during the band's early years.[63] Corgan acknowledged that a chord he jokingly claimed as "the Pumpkin chord" (a G# octave chord at the eleventh fret of a guitar with the low E string played over it), used as the basis for "Cherub Rock" and other songs, was in fact previously used by Jimi Hendrix.[55] Other early influences cited by Corgan ******* Cream, The Stooges, and Blue Cheer.[64]

[edit] Selected discography

For a comprehensive listing see: The Smashing Pumpkins discography

Date of release Title Record label
May 28, 1991 Gish Caroline Records
July 27, 1993 Siamese Dream Virgin Records
October 24, 1995 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Virgin Records
June 2, 1998 Adore Virgin Records
February 29, 2000 MACHINA/The Machines of God Virgin Records
September 5, 2000 MACHINA II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music Constantinople Records

 
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ok read, but nothing new

 
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did you mean "red" or "reed"? i did both. what a fool am i.

 
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Dude who wrote that post can't spell Chamberlin. Don't know if anyone else noticed/cared.

 
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Dude who wrote that post can't spell Chamberlin. Don't know if anyone else noticed/cared.
no/no

 
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If the title is anything to go by this thread should be about flatulence.

 
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