'I'll piss on Radiohead'

[Luke de Spa]

Muse, anyone?

[mojo]

Originally Posted by krackhead

Pablo honey is NOT better than pearl jam. period. It has creep. Stop whispering was a good song (not the video version.) I also like track 1, but I forget the name. Our lady peace clumsy > pablo honey. Silverchair frogstomp > pablo honey. Foo fighters foo fighters > pablo honey. The bends > pablo honey. However, pablo honey > the kind of limbs.

He said Pearl Jam rip-off bands, not Pearl Jam.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by emilem

oh i know, no guitars = experimental, electronic music for open minded. oh how i know. and i'm pretty positive kid a and how to disappear feature pretty linear songwriting with strong hint of hooks/chorus. can't be arsed to listen and check, but if i remember correctly tht's the case.

using electric pianos and sequencing some drums is not exactly equal to what went down with tkol.

Kid A, the song, is as unsual structurally and musically as anything on tkol.

[meangreensp]

Originally Posted by Luke de Spa

Muse, anyone?

Next album is going to fucking suck.

[krackhead]

gold cobra was a better album than Oceania.

[Catherine Wheel]

Gold Cobra y'all

[krackhead]

Fred Durst will piss on B0lly Corgan.

[brutechinasky]

creep and stop whispering are probably the worst songs on that album

[escargot]

“It’s not Radiohead that’s pompous; in fact, I think Radiohead is a great band. It’s the pomposity that surrounds Radiohead in a culture that needs to celebrate them to reaffirm their own value system. Like, ‘Isn’t it cool that Thom Yorke just rolls out of bed, puts on his hat, and doesn’t care?’ That’s people reflecting their own values back to themselves. That’s the pomposity. That’s what I said in that quote.”

As Corgan explains, it’s more so the people concerning themselves with the scene and image that comes hand in hand with enjoying his, and Radiohead’s music. Both bands share a similar fan base, but Corgan has had enough of people comparing artists; he continues: “The culture that needs to place me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar. And I love P.J. Harvey, and I have complete admiration for her, but, c’mon, me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar? I mean, c’mon, that’s a fucking asshole, in a beard, in New York, who has to put me there to make some sort of statement.”

[mojo]

Originally Posted by escargot

“It’s not Radiohead that’s pompous; in fact, I think Radiohead is a great band. It’s the pomposity that surrounds Radiohead in a culture that needs to celebrate them to reaffirm their own value system. Like, ‘Isn’t it cool that Thom Yorke just rolls out of bed, puts on his hat, and doesn’t care?’ That’s people reflecting their own values back to themselves. That’s the pomposity. That’s what I said in that quote.”

As Corgan explains, it’s more so the people concerning themselves with the scene and image that comes hand in hand with enjoying his, and Radiohead’s music. Both bands share a similar fan base, but Corgan has had enough of people comparing artists; he continues: “The culture that needs to place me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar. And I love P.J. Harvey, and I have complete admiration for her, but, c’mon, me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar? I mean, c’mon, that’s a fucking asshole, in a beard, in New York, who has to put me there to make some sort of statement.”

Oh, the humiliation of a climbdown.

Did he say this after the sad news broke about the Radiohead drum tech?

It's been a while since SP played their own show on a stage big enough to hurt anyone in the event of collapse.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by mojo

It's been a while since SP played their own show on a stage big enough to hurt anyone in the event of collapse.

lol

[scottytheoneand]

http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/0...hing-pumpkins/

Okay, one last question. You made a lot of waves last week with your quote about Radiohead. Would you like to clarify what you meant when you said, “I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity. This value system that says Jonny Greenwood is more valuable than Ritchie Blackmore”?

It’s not Radiohead that’s pompous; in fact, I think Radiohead is a great band. It’s the pomposity that surrounds Radiohead in a culture that needs to celebrate them to reaffirm their own value system. Like, “Isn’t it cool that Thom Yorke just rolls out of bed, puts on his hat, and doesn’t care?” That’s people reflecting their own values back to themselves. That’s the pomposity. That’s what I said in that quote. The culture that needs to place me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar. And I love P.J. Harvey, and I have complete admiration for her, but, c’mon, me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar? I mean, c’mon, that’s a fucking asshole, in a beard, in New York, who has to put me there to make some sort of statement.

That’s what I’m talking about. That culture’s got to go. And what I mean by “got to go” is it needs to go back to where it belongs, in the basement. The fact that it’s being celebrated as some sort of cultural movement, the unchecked Id. We’ve all sat there with the remote and we’re watching football, “Fucking idiot, he should have thrown the ball.” Okay, you try to stand there with five 320lb men who run four-four forties coming at you, and let’s see if you can make the fucking pass. That’s what athletes think, because I know them, because they tell me. And that’s what rock stars think. You get up on a fucking stage and hold an audience for two fucking hours.

I’ve noticed over the years, shows are getting shorter, attitudes are getting shorter, people aren’t paying attention to a lot of things.

Right, and somehow we’re celebrating a culture that celebrates the death of freedom.

Celebrating ignorance over education.

Right, I don’t understand. A band like Radiohead is incredibly important; it should be that way. They’re a great band; they should have their audience; they should headline the festivals. The reviewers should write the four pages of reviews while they comb through Thom’s lyrics. They’re deserved of that. It’s the culture around that, that same culture that turns around and says my new release is worthy of a one-paragraph thing that dismisses me and says he hasn’t done anything good since ’93. Am I receiving the same level of critical review? No. They need to put people like me in that box to make their other box look brighter. That’s my point. It’s football players; it’s jocks and stoners and nerds all over again. And now the nerds are running the fucking show?

I guess the irony is that years ago, that’s who we wanted running the show, right?

Well, look at what hell hath wrought.

[mellon_c0llie]

Originally Posted by mojo

Oh, the humiliation of a climbdown.

Did he say this after the sad news broke about the Radiohead drum tech?

It's been a while since SP played their own show on a stage big enough to hurt anyone in the event of collapse.

I understood him to be talking about the "culture" and not Radiohead in the original quote. I don't think he's back peddling at all. I think Radiohead gets the attention they deserve by being consistent and kind to fans. I think the one thing that urks netphoria the most is when Billy says he's going to do something and doesn't deliver.

[reprise85]

he said the comment before the stage collapse incident. im sure he wouldn't have after

[escargot]

not because he was wrong

[scottytheoneand]

I get what he's saying. But his delivery is just really bad.

Billy talks too much. It always starts with a shocking or agressive statement, which then gets qualified by twenty or thirty sentences of vague prose. Instead of being direct and to the point he talks around the point he's making... I'm not sure why... maybe in an attempt to sound intellectual. He wants to deliver big ideas. Like John Lennon or Jim Morrison or something. But the public has never really liked rock stars with big ideas. They like rock stars who burn their guitars, smash shit on stage and tell people to tear shit up. People want the ideas in the music, not in a monologue, and when he plays the part of pop intellectual off stage it usually gets him in trouble.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by mellon_c0llie

I understood him to be talking about the "culture" and not Radiohead in the original quote. I don't think he's back peddling .

Hmmm. Maybe you're right, but by using the cojunction of words "I'll piss on Radiohead" its not exactly hard to see how Billy's nuanced appraisal of contemporary culture and music criticism wound up looking like a jealously-motivated attack on a more more successful band.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

I get what he's saying. But his delivery is just really bad.

Billy talks too much. It always starts with a shocking or agressive statement, which then gets qualified by twenty or thirty sentences of vague prose. Instead of being direct and to the point he talks around the point he's making... I'm not sure why...

because he likes to hear himself talk

basically anything coming out of his mouth is generally unimportant and any things he says he's gonna do are things he's thinking of doing in that very instant and may be forgotten even 20 mins later after he finds a sandwich

[scottytheoneand]

samwhich?

I'm hungry

[slunken]

Well, look at what hell hath wrought.

[subzero]

kol is great and im not a radiohead fanboy

[Trotskilicious]

low standards i'm sure

[subzero]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

I get what he's saying. But his delivery is just really bad.

Billy talks too much. It always starts with a shocking or agressive statement, which then gets qualified by twenty or thirty sentences of vague prose. Instead of being direct and to the point he talks around the point he's making... I'm not sure why... maybe in an attempt to sound intellectual. He wants to deliver big ideas. Like John Lennon or Jim Morrison or something. But the public has never really liked rock stars with big ideas. They like rock stars who burn their guitars, smash shit on stage and tell people to tear shit up. People want the ideas in the music, not in a monologue, and when he plays the part of pop intellectual off stage it usually gets him in trouble.

*shudders at the memory of the alex jones interview*

[Cowlishaw]

Billy Corgan is the male Courtney Love. They were perfect for each other.