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Old 07-09-2009, 10:01 PM   #211
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I think Obama is doing fine for the most part. As best as could be expected considering he inherited one of the biggest messes in American history.

 
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:03 PM   #212
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that's not what you say about someone who throws gasoline on a fire

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:14 AM   #213
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That excuse is pretty tired already. Say its too soon to see if its working or not, thats at least more or less the truth. He ran as the best person to handle one of the biggest messes in history, boo-freaking-hoo. Hes already endorsed and expanded some of W's worst moves, and those were inherited too.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 12:47 AM   #214
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the two biggest morons on this board happen to hate obama

coincidence?

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:51 AM   #215
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Nah I hate you useless cheerleaders who decide right and wrong by how awesome you think the person deciding is. Obamas kinda cool.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:16 AM   #216
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If Obama reversed himself on the stuff Ive posted in this thread (willingly), passed single payer or shelved healthcare reform until its done right, kept his word on DADT at least, and managed to pull the economy out I would have no problem voting for him in '12. Basically the HOPE/CHANGE he ran as. Hell throw in some investigations into Bush and Id name my first child Barack, even if it was a girl.

Safe bet it'll be Aaron instead. Probably not if its a girl.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:34 AM   #217
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I dont blame you, its easier to simply say Im a bitter Clinton supporter than to try and justify the things I complain about. Its such a crazy notion too, a candidate keeping his promises. A bit strange too, since if my devotion to Hill were that strong, wouldnt I be greatful to Obama for ressurecting her and saving her from being cast aside as the old failed model? I mean this is you're logic not mine, so if you could explain that it'd be helpful.

Or maybe you could explain your view "I think Obama is doing fine for the most part." when his economic moves are in limbo, and he's basically running and adding onto the Bush playbook for National Security.

But either way, chew on this. Lets say I am just bitter. That says nothing about rightness or wrongness of things, does it? I could be both bitter and right. I could live with that I guess.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:06 AM   #218
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It's also easier to say I "hate Obama" since I voted for the guy and he's gone against everything he promised to do, and passed one of the biggest sham budgets to special interests and pork disguised and named a "stimulus plan."

I'm really starting to wonder too if McCain=Bush wasn't more accurately Obama=Bush.

But you know, he smokes and likes Star Trek so we'll overlook all of that.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:41 AM   #219
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It's also easier to say I "hate Obama" since I voted for the guy and he's gone against everything he promised to do, and passed one of the biggest sham budgets to special interests and pork disguised and named a "stimulus plan."

I'm really starting to wonder too if McCain=Bush wasn't more accurately Obama=Bush.

But you know, he smokes and likes Star Trek so we'll overlook all of that.
No, I tend to agree with FutureBoy about Obama, but you really take things about 47 miles too far.

Is his budget really much different than anyone expected? No. This isn't fucking Ron Paul. The stimulus plan hasn't even really been enacted yet, so to judge it right now is seemingly idiotic. And if you really think Obama is anything close to Bush, then you're not paying any attention to..... well, anything. FB has legitimate beefs. Maybe you should follow his lead.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:43 AM   #220
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and redbreegull, just shut up. Hill has done an impeccable job as SoS so far, and it's hard to argue that she would be pussyfooting around liberal issues like your main man has done since he was sworn in.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:44 AM   #221
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but hey she's kind of ugly and she's a woman so what the fuck do i know

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:33 PM   #222
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man i got an aching need to make a big poo in this thread

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:34 PM   #223
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preferably on the omega concern

LOL FASCISM LOL ASL NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT UNDER BUSH BUT LOL OBAMA FASCISM LOL ASL I AM RETARDED

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:34 PM   #224
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IF YOU SAID COMMUNISM I WOULD ONLY THINK YOU ARE CRAZY BUT FASCISM IS WHAT DUMBSHITS SAY YOU DUMBSHIT.



how about you read a book

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:35 PM   #225
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this fascism shit is making me absolutely insane

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:54 PM   #226
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Were'd redbreegulls post go.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 05:17 PM   #227
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No, I tend to agree with FutureBoy about Obama, but you really take things about 47 miles too far.

Is his budget really much different than anyone expected? No. This isn't fucking Ron Paul. The stimulus plan hasn't even really been enacted yet, so to judge it right now is seemingly idiotic. And if you really think Obama is anything close to Bush, then you're not paying any attention to..... well, anything. FB has legitimate beefs. Maybe you should follow his lead.
He also said that Obama has been Bush on National Security, which I agree with completely. There's been zero difference in practice.

The "to judge it now is idiotic" slant you keep taking is totally off base. It was a spending bill full of pork and pet projects. That in and of itself hurts the economy during a major recession. And I would guess the budget would have been expected to be a lot different by anyone who believed in his campaign speeches about hope, change, and the scalpel on the federal budget during a major economic crisis.

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:17 PM   #228
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mr. economics expert nimrod's son everybody

p.s. if you thought that scalpel comment in the debate meant he was cutting budget like you would like to see then you're a bigger idiot than i thought

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:07 PM   #229
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"daaaaymn girl! you be fine!"

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 07:29 PM   #230
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mr. economics expert nimrod's son everybody

p.s. if you thought that scalpel comment in the debate meant he was cutting budget like you would like to see then you're a bigger idiot than i thought
well all he's done is increase everything, so i'm curious what he meant by that then if it wasn't just a lie

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:44 PM   #231
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you really are this naive aren't you

 
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:43 PM   #232
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But you know, he smokes and likes Star Trek
If I could vote for him, I totally would for just those reasons. 100%

HOWEVER, I do remember there was a pop-culture quiz on EW between McCain and Obama, and McCain kicked his ass, IMHO:

Photo 1 | Obama vs. McCain: The Great Presidential Pop-Culture Debate | Photos | EW.com

McCain picked President Palmer, how awesome is that?

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:31 AM   #233
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Obama isn't spending enough i'm afraid

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:33 AM   #234
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well all he's done is increase everything, so i'm curious what he meant by that then if it wasn't just a lie
he's also passed the biggest tax cuts in history.

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 04:19 AM   #235
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Isnt that still Bush though? I mean the number of people affected you're probably right, but monetary value I find that hard to believe.

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:23 AM   #236
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what's Obama doing in Africa? he only cares about blacks and jews.

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:41 AM   #237
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seriously

 
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:18 PM   #238
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If I could vote for him, I totally would for just those reasons. 100%

HOWEVER, I do remember there was a pop-culture quiz on EW between McCain and Obama, and McCain kicked his ass, IMHO:

Photo 1 | Obama vs. McCain: The Great Presidential Pop-Culture Debate | Photos | EW.com

McCain picked President Palmer, how awesome is that?

 
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:59 PM   #239
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what's Obama doing in Africa? he only cares about blacks and jews.

There's lots of gold to be mined in Ghana.

 
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:12 AM   #240
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I'm ashamed that Obama is our president.

 
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