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05-01-2018, 10:17 PM | #271 | |
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Putin isn't anti-LGB either. He's perfectly fine with it. The law is against children being propagandized about homosexuality, which while it is morally debatable, is at the least understandable. If you put ideas in children's minds, kids can be very narrowly focused. I'm not arguing one way or another though, I'm simply saying I understand the mindset. Reprise, I sincerely want you to watch this interview. It's Putin in his own words, not some bogus American propaganda |
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05-01-2018, 10:23 PM | #272 | |
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05-01-2018, 10:26 PM | #273 | |
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to be clear, I for one do not "care about you", nor did I want to see you unmuted, because it was very clear you would do NOTHING of what you said you would. instead, you would repeat the same damn shit in the same damn place. shocker. so go ahead, continue your Roes I am Braindead routine - while I will continue to mess with your posts in whichever fucking way I want to. go write a formal complaint about it. |
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05-01-2018, 10:29 PM | #274 | |
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I understand though, It's not something I'm worked up over... But I'd say that RBG clip was trying to ruffle the feathers of the conservatives that read here... Not much of a difference when you think about it. |
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05-01-2018, 10:30 PM | #275 |
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05-01-2018, 10:30 PM | #276 |
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You should watch the Oliver Stone documentary that he did with Putin. I really believe he and Russia are misunderstood. America always NEEDS a boogieman, and unfortunately it makes sense for them to try and make it Russia.
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05-01-2018, 10:31 PM | #277 | |
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That is crazy about your grandmother. It's such an awful thing to go through. And yet in a fucked up way, it is such practical and helpful advice for her to give you and I can see why she would want to pass it on. |
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05-01-2018, 10:32 PM | #278 |
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it is a very pragmatic way of thinking yes, I miss my gran.
my mom was not that amused - I was 12 or 13 when my gran gave me that DIY-lesson... |
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05-01-2018, 10:33 PM | #279 |
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05-01-2018, 10:34 PM | #280 |
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05-01-2018, 10:35 PM | #281 |
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can someone just ban fuzz from the general section exclusively, is that a thing
let us have one not fully retarded place on the internet |
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05-01-2018, 10:37 PM | #282 |
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"Extreme liberalism."
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05-01-2018, 10:37 PM | #283 |
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05-01-2018, 10:44 PM | #284 | |
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This whole trusting of the government and following the herd thing isn't very punk rock of you lol. Last edited by fuzzyroes : 05-01-2018 at 10:54 PM. |
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05-01-2018, 10:46 PM | #285 |
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Obviously Russia isn't perfect. But the United States is the most violent corrupt government of them all so I don't understand the angle that people have when they demonize Russia.
In my mind, it would be better for the world to work together, disagreements aside. This whole American idea of "You gotta behave exactly like us or else" stance isn't very pragmatic. |
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05-01-2018, 10:52 PM | #286 | |
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Also I started watching that video but the first clip is him talking about the "legitimate government of syria" and how he supports them. you know, the government that is committing genocide on its own citizens with chemical weapons? look, russia has been trying to pit itself against America since at least the end of WW1, I don't know enough about history to go further back. the majority of major military crises we've had since ww2 have been conflicts with russia or proxy conflicts with russia (cuban missle crisis, korea). russia is the long-term enemy of the USA and Putin is continuing the tradition no matter how many times Trump kisses his ass i'm not watching a 2 hour interview that you didn't even watch. point me to some clips and i will. |
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05-01-2018, 10:54 PM | #287 |
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05-01-2018, 10:55 PM | #288 | |
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05-01-2018, 10:56 PM | #289 |
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can't teach children that homosexuality is a thing that exists
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05-01-2018, 11:02 PM | #290 | |
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I never said I agree with it. But that's certainly a lot more liberal than you'll find in a TON of other countries |
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05-01-2018, 11:04 PM | #291 |
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That's not what the law is against.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have an opinion one way or another. All I'm saying is that I can understand both sides of the argument. Let children discover their sexuality naturally without institutions deciding how to raise the young. Leave it up to the families to educate their kids on this. |
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05-01-2018, 11:05 PM | #292 |
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I guess for a long time, the foreign policy of the U.S. involved a lot of violence and corruption, but life for the average U.S. citizen was pretty OK. But for the average Russian citizen, the foreign policy and many other policies of Russian governments made life in Russia, pretty horrible for a lot of people. I have known a few Russian expats and I don't know of many who make a life for themselves outside of Russia and are then keen to return.
Though I think successive U.S. governments on both sides have done their best to create the same conditions of poverty and violence within U.S. borders, that the Russian government allowed to flourish and which have driven many Russians into an expat life. There's already the start of an exodus I think, from the U.S. - I know a few U.S. citizens here who are not keen to return home because of gun violence and political instability. They are grateful to send their kids to school here in Singapore, never worrying about whether they will be shot dead, either in the classroom, or on the way there or back. I knew a family in Sydney, too, who moved there from Chicago for that same reason. But yeah. The place where U.S. citizens are now...I feel like Russians have been living in that place for many more years. The Russian government has not done a great job in governing for the good of all its citizens. The U.S. has in previous years done a better job of that. Well, for white citizens anyway. Obviously black citizens have a totally different story to tell about governance in the U.S. |
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05-01-2018, 11:06 PM | #293 | |
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05-01-2018, 11:07 PM | #294 | |
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To justify negative US/Russia relations because of an insensitive law is really being simple minded in my opinion. Americas partners with some of the most homophobic countries in the world... So the argument holds no weight. Last edited by fuzzyroes : 05-01-2018 at 11:18 PM. |
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05-01-2018, 11:07 PM | #295 | |
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05-01-2018, 11:08 PM | #296 |
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I can see this is going to turn into a shit-show.
I respect the moderation here, so I'm going to politely bow out because I don't wanna get banned again. If anyone want's to continue the conversation with me they can correspond with me through Netphorias message feature. |
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05-01-2018, 11:10 PM | #297 | |
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05-01-2018, 11:10 PM | #298 | |
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And that will be the last I say about it here. Please no one address me with further inquiries in this thread. I don't wanna overstep the ground rules that I agreed upon. |
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05-01-2018, 11:12 PM | #299 |
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05-01-2018, 11:13 PM | #300 | |
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Have you read any Chomsky? Rethinking Camelot might be interesting to you if you are curious about alternative accounts of U.S.-Russia relations. |
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