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Old 08-30-2018, 06:30 AM   #61
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With a mention of "Ghosts", I'm gonna say this song is about the illusion of fame and it's trappings.

WHITE LABS ARE COOKING
UP THE SILVER GHOST

 
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Old 08-30-2018, 12:39 PM   #62
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AS SHE COUNTED THE SPECTERS
AS THEY CRAWLED UP HER RECTUM

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:30 AM   #63
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But billy doesnt give a shit if ppl like it
Haha you are really funny that's a good one

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:27 AM   #64
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I hate the cover. It reminds me of nazi-style.
Funny that people who try to be so spiritual (like billy) are so easily irritated by questions on instagram.

Why cant he just admit that mtae is a 2 star record. Why cant he admit that he couldnt write one great album since 2000?
18 years no real success- honestly that's hard to take

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:46 AM   #65
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the problem is that he has "success" (making a hit album that appeals to the mainstream) confused with success (making good music that sells enough to enable him to survive).

he should talk to boris. they would straighten him out.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:13 PM   #66
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I hate the cover. It reminds me of nazi-style.
Funny that people who try to be so spiritual (like billy) are so easily irritated by questions on instagram.

Why cant he just admit that mtae is a 2 star record. Why cant he admit that he couldnt write one great album since 2000?
18 years no real success- honestly that's hard to take
A bit reductive to call the globally popular "art deco" style of the 1930s, which was inspired by industrial mass production and the machinic qualities of the human body, "nazi-style." If that were the case, you would have to call most Soviet, European, and American art from that period "nazi-style" as well, which would be more than a little confused about influences and appropriations.

That being said, in this moment of fascist re-emergence, it seems like a poor art direction to go it. But hey, its BELLY.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:34 PM   #67
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I showed the cover my grandfather 95y. He said "fuckibg nazis". He was forced to join with 17 years. Or they would have shot him. He was and still is against nazis.
But the art- cover- reminds him of that horrible time.
Slowly i get it: billy supports trump, mancow and the other radio asshole. And now this nazi cover.
My hopes are low because solara is so embarrassing and the new song recorded at the same time.
Lokkn foward to your comments on sept.13th

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:01 PM   #68
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I showed the cover my grandfather 95y. He said "fuckibg nazis". He was forced to join with 17 years. Or they would have shot him. He was and still is against nazis.
But the art- cover- reminds him of that horrible time.
Slowly i get it: billy supports trump, mancow and the other radio asshole. And now this nazi cover.
My hopes are low because solara is so embarrassing and the new song recorded at the same time.
Lokkn foward to your comments on sept.13th
But he was a Nazi. That's what I'm taking from your story.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:03 PM   #69
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I showed the cover my grandfather 95y. He said "fuckibg nazis". He was forced to join with 17 years. Or they would have shot him. He was and still is against nazis.
But the art- cover- reminds him of that horrible time.
Slowly i get it: billy supports trump, mancow and the other radio asshole. And now this nazi cover.
My hopes are low because solara is so embarrassing and the new song recorded at the same time.
Lokkn foward to your comments on sept.13th
Yeah, I get that this art has a lot of associations with the Nazis. My point is that the actual art movement that Nazi and fascist art was a part of was actually an international movement. If you look at frescoes and designs of period architecture in places like New York or LA you will see similar art. The Chrysler building is not Nazi style.

That being said, assholes with white supremacy sympathies use this art today. I think that Billy is dumb to choose this in 2018, when the neo-nazi associations out power other possible interpretations. Linda Strawberry as Leni Riefenstahl. Unless Billy starts using swastikas I probably won’t change my opinion on this.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:04 PM   #70
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that horrible time.
Slowly i get it: billy supports trump, mancow and the other radio asshole. And now this nazi cover.
My hopes are low because solara is so embarrassing and the new song recorded at the same time.
Lokkn foward to your comments on sept.13th
are you a nazi like your gandpa?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:35 PM   #71
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are you a nazi like your gandpa?
He wasnt and still isnt. Many ppl especially in small valleys in the west of austria were forced to join.
You have no idea. I bet you have no idea whete auszria is. You fukn assfuk

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:39 PM   #72
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small valleys in the west of austria...

HOT DAMN: A VORALBERGER!!!!

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 01:40 PM   #73
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my grandpa was a partisan gorilla btw. he ate nazi liver for brunch.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:13 PM   #74
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on youtube before the 13 ?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:19 PM   #75
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you think this is a game?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:29 PM   #76
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He wasnt and still isnt. Many ppl especially in small valleys in the west of austria were forced to join.
You have no idea. I bet you have no idea whete auszria is. You fukn assfuk
LOOK HERE. YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WASN'T FOR AMERICANS. SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:35 PM   #77
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I respect you less- you voted an asshole for president. America became a mess.
Glad living in belgrad

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 02:41 PM   #78
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Aleksandar Vučić (your president) said: “for every Serb killed, we will kill 100 Muslims”

Billy doesn't need you or your country for fans.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:26 PM   #79
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Jeez people. Shitty leaders all over the world, but let’s keep our focus on what unites us, not divides us: Billy bein’ a poop.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:33 PM   #80
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Has someone sent Billy his Netphoria welcome pack and membership card?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:43 PM   #81
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Aleksandar Vučić (your president) said: “for every Serb killed, we will kill 100 Muslims”

Billy doesn't need you or your country for fans.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:44 PM   #82
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NUKE CRAOTIA

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:25 PM   #83
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I hate the cover. It reminds me of nazi-style.
I don't mind the graphics themselves, it's the fonts that are terrible. Looks like they are from some shitty Norse-mythology power-metal band.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:27 PM   #84
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The vague similarities to art styles associated with Nazi Germany wouldn't be as uncomfortable if not for recent political trends and the crowd Corgan has been palling around with for the past few years. I mean, it's not like Nazis have the monopoly on these aesthetic elements, but… timing.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 04:44 PM   #85
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Single cover reminds me of the title card for the Nazi propaganda programme 'Die Deutsche Wochenschau'....or half a dozen other things from the 1930s/40s.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:06 PM   #86
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I don't think it's just the use of Art Deco that's reminiscent of Nazi imagery. Art Deco is ubiquitous, and not everything that recalls it looks Naziish.

I mean, there are several elements of Art Deco that probably run contrary to the Nazi Germany artistic ethos, anyway. The focus on abstracting forms to simple but striking stylistic elements, rather than following the classical Greek and Roman practices of striving for idealized realism. The influence of modernity and opulence, which Nazis might see as decadent and materialistic. However, the Nazis themselves weren't very consistent on what was considered "good" and "bad" art; there were a lot of contradictions and lots of flip-flopping on particular styles and works (Futura going from a banned typeface to being used on official Nazi publications, for instance).

I think the thing that makes the art feel more Naziish are those really idealized, classical elements (majestic wings, classical hero figures), that just happen to also be Deco-ized.

I'm more discussing this out of armchair interest; I'm not actually condemning the art as irresponsible or anything just because it kinda maybe reminds me of Nazis a little bit. The most offensive thing about the album art is the fact that the fonts are butt-ugly.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:12 PM   #87
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Also, are we expecting any of the new releases to actually be recent material worked on with Iha and Chamberlin, or is this mostly going to be shit cut from Elegies to a Monument and Day for Night? Because I see no reason why I'd wanna hear outtakes from those albums when I the albums themselves weren't even enticing enough for me to check them out.

 
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Aleksandar Vučić (your president) said: “for every Serb killed, we will kill 100 Muslims”

Billy doesn't need you or your country for fans.
Boom!
Didn't think you could come back after having been called out for that president of yours!

 
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To be honest, he desparetely needs any fans.

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whete auszria is. You fukn assfuk
For the viewers at home, could you please point out whete is auszria?

 
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