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Old 02-12-2016, 04:24 PM   #151
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dusty is craaazy lyrics yo

"Spy the fragile heart so cursed
As he walks across this earth"

Yeah you're thinking "let them cry out through your rusty scars"

To me it's pretty clearly about the vengeful ghost of a murdered lover. Possibly as a metaphor for feeling guilty about doing a lady wrong

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:30 PM   #152
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Did they ever do TAFH live with Jimmy?

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:46 PM   #153
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As far as TAFH, I can't be sure, but it seems to have something to do with watching someone with a delicate heart, who is also jinxed, as they traverse across this land

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 05:37 PM   #154
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Did they ever do TAFH live with Jimmy?
in 2007

http://www.spfc.org/tours/song.html?song_id=3

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:23 PM   #155
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Yeah you're thinking "let them cry out through your rusty scars"

To me it's pretty clearly about the vengeful ghost of a murdered lover. Possibly as a metaphor for feeling guilty about doing a lady wrong
it is. billy's said so in that Storytellers show back in the day.

but even though it's almost obvious, the metaphor you mentioned has never occurred to me. it makes the song that much more effective. nice

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:24 PM   #156
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amphetamine bondage girl
i understood the context from the lyrics, but how and why did he end up pairing Annie and Dog.

what is the extracted meaning from this juxtaposition?

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:29 PM   #157
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btw i took a walk in the park the other day. p sure i saw a graceful swan of never!

it looked fairly agitated though because some kid was throwing stuff at it

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:17 PM   #158
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it never occurred to me that dusty and pistol pete might be about homicide

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:47 PM   #159
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it's pretty obvious dude

"removes the final breath from her unkind"

 
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Old 02-12-2016, 11:52 PM   #160
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it does seem obvious, I just never made the connection. I've overlooked this song by and large tbh. Although I like it, it's kind of been eclipsed for me by a lot of other Adore songs. I'm not sure I have ever really focused on the lyrics. Something about them always made me feel they are a bit contrived. The whole "storytelling" thing is so unlike Billy's usual songwriting... yeah I dunno. I guess it's time to smoke mad trees and listen to this album

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Old 02-12-2016, 11:57 PM   #161
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contrived is the perfect word to describe them actually.
i mean it's still fairly well made, but you can just clearly see how he set out to do a storytelling song, from start to finish. it's still pretty good though. i recently listened to the CRC demo or whatever from the Adore reissue, and realized how much the production boggles it down on the album.

the CRC demo is sloppy, no doubt, but suddenly the song comes alive. more dynamics, emotion, and an amazingly beautiful guitar solo (courtesy of james, i suspect) thrown in. the album version is much flatter and meandering.

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:17 AM   #162
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untr00 fan alert but crc demo? is this on the reissue?

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:18 AM   #163
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Fucken I love "inside the ordinary catacombs of her waiting"

Also the (self-referencing, consciously melodramatic/meloncollic) "far out ... Beneath the sorrow clouds"

Adore is just an embarrassment of riches all around when it comes to the lyrics. Towers over every other SP album on that front, imo

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:19 AM   #164
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Hehe lotta tress obviously gettin smoked already itt by rbg

Lol olive u guise

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:27 AM   #165
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god damn my typing just keeps getting worse and worse and my brain is not detecting typos and errors like it used to. too many trees.... or not... enough?

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:30 AM   #166
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untr00 fan alert but crc demo? is this on the reissue?

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:42 AM   #167
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god damn my typing just keeps getting worse and worse and my brain is not detecting typos and errors like it used to. too many trees.... or not... enough?
It's ok man, it's just slapstick.

Not like I'm doing any better: "embarrassment of riches," "towers over," clichés like these will not MOVE THE BOARD FWD

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:45 AM   #168
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embarrassment of riches is actually a pretty interesting thing, can't say I have ever heard that before

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 12:47 AM   #169
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if I ever write another album worth of songs I might call it Embarrassment of Riches

 
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credit to run2me

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:29 AM   #171
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Goddamn James' guitar parts in that are so so good

And whatever session drummer is playing on that is perfect for the song

Imagine how good Adore would be if the whole thing was produced like that, like a live band feel

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:55 AM   #172
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that version is fucking killer. billy's voice is much more emotive and not as focused on perfection. the song has got this sort of dark country, tired rambling feel to it. totally different than the album version. however I do not wish all of Adore was like this. Adore is so good the way it is

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:11 AM   #173
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Adore is so good the way it is
I lost IQ points just by reading this. It really just made me want to go back to the plantation.

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:44 AM   #174
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I lost IQ points just by reading this. It really just made me want to go back to the plantation.
cool it, brosa parks. surely you know you are in the minority opinion here.

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:06 AM   #175
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Yeah you're thinking "let them cry out through your rusty scars"

To me it's pretty clearly about the vengeful ghost of a murdered lover. Possibly as a metaphor for feeling guilty about doing a lady wrong
it's the "her inside him" part that gets me.

what's he talking about, pegging?

vixnix to thread plz and thank u

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:08 AM   #176
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I guess it's time to smoke mad trees...
see, we can be friends.


 
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:38 AM   #177
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it's the "her inside him" part that gets me.

what's he talking about, pegging?

vixnix to thread plz and thank u
Yeah that lyric bugs me. It's like he's trying to be weird

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:46 AM   #178
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I really like the song tho. but i'm an sp nerd so...

I didn't mean to rhyme yo.

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:30 PM   #179
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cannibalism?

 
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:20 PM   #180
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Listening to the Adore Live soniclovenoize comp and it's so good. torrent

 
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