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Old 11-11-2017, 03:21 PM   #31
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Hey, I'm all for Trump jokes if they're funny. Hell, I don't miss an episode of Real Time With Bill Maher and he's pretty much the biggest Trump hater there is but he's still a funny guy even if I don't agree with him. Colbert just comes off as kind of a smug yuppie now or something.
Bill Maher is an insufferable douchebag and just a few notches away from being a Fox News contributor. No surprise you like him.

 
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:31 PM   #32
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I never liked Stephen Colbert. Not even in Strangers With Candy.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:55 PM   #33
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:02 PM   #34
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I'm not sticking up for Roy Moore in any way, but these accusations are all from over 40 years ago...

And as troubling as it is to admit, it was a different time and place back then as far as the culture went. It was more socially acceptable back in the 1970's for guys in their 20's and 30's to bang high school girls. You'd see movies where it was glorified all of the time... Some loser in his 20's or early 30's all stoked that he banged the hot cheerleader.

Hell, even take the marquee song from KISS

Christine Sixteen

She's got me dizzy, she sees me through to the end
She's got me in her hands and there's no use in pretending
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
She drives me crazy, I want to give her all I've got
And she's hot every day and night, there is no doubt about it
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
I don't usually say things like this to girls your age
But when I saw you coming out of the school that day
That day I knew, I knew (Christine sixteen)
I've got to have you, I've got to have you
She's' been around, but she's young and clean
I've got to have her, can't live without her, whoa no
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
Christine (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah, yeah
She's so clean (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah…


No one batted an eye lash.

Now I'm not defending the actions in anyway, but it's an angle that should be considered. And also, nothings proven at this point.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:03 PM   #35
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I'm not sticking up for Roy Moore in any way
You shoulda stopped there.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:04 PM   #36
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I'm not sticking up for Roy Moore in any way, I'm just an apologist for rape and sex abuse against children

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:04 PM   #37
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Do you think it's worth electing a verified pedophile to public office because we "can't afford to have a librul holding a seat in Alabama"?

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:04 PM   #38
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did you guys know that if you raped someone 40 years ago, it's not rape anymore?

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:05 PM   #39
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To be fair, the Hillary Clinton satanic baby raping happened over 20 years ago, so why not let bygones be bygones?

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:05 PM   #40
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The guys in Kiss would have been 28 at the time the song was released.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:06 PM   #41
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The guys in Kiss would have been 28 at the time the song was released.
oh yeah this is moral measuring stick, what were guys in hard rock bands in the 70s doing

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:06 PM   #42
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Also, fuzzy, your argument might hold a little water (like, maybe a half of a drop) if Moore would admit to and apologize for his past transgressions and show he's a changed man. But nope, he's digging his heels in and making like his master, Trump, and denying reality.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:10 PM   #43
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Most of the accusations came from girls who were 16 and 17 at the time. There is one girl who claims to have been 14, but the story has it's flaws.

I dunno, it's gross and fucked up... But I think ultimately it's up for the people of Alabama to decide if this is a deal breaker or not. I think if he does win that the Republicans will end up expelling him though.

It's to his credit that none of these accusations are recent though, unlike some of the predators on the Democratic side.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:11 PM   #44
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Most of the accusations came from girls who were 16 and 17 at the time. There is one girl who claims to have been 14, but the story has it's flaws.

I dunno, it's gross and fucked up... But I think ultimately it's up fro the people of Alabama to decide if this is a deal breaker or not. I think if he do wins that the Republicans will end up expelling him though.

It's to his credit that none of these accusations are recent though, unlike some of the predators on the Democratic side.
yeah all these dems raping teenage girls

you'll justify anything to yourself, you fucking shithead

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:12 PM   #45
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and no they won't expel him, they will embrace him just like they did with trump because they are spineless amoral sacks of shit

whatever it takes to rob more people to enrich their donors

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:13 PM   #46
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You mean a predator like Conyers who has rightfully stepped aside? Moore is not fit for public service. If you use even an ounce of logic, you'll come to this conclusion as well.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:13 PM   #47
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and no they won't expel him, they will embrace him just like they did with trump because they are spineless amoral sacks of shit
This is true.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:14 PM   #48
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:15 PM   #49
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I'm not sticking up for Roy Moore in any way, but these accusations are all from over 40 years ago...

And as troubling as it is to admit, it was a different time and place back then as far as the culture went. It was more socially acceptable back in the 1970's for guys in their 20's and 30's to bang high school girls. You'd see movies where it was glorified all of the time... Some loser in his 20's or early 30's all stoked that he banged the hot cheerleader.

Hell, even take the marquee song from KISS

Christine Sixteen

She's got me dizzy, she sees me through to the end
She's got me in her hands and there's no use in pretending
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
She drives me crazy, I want to give her all I've got
And she's hot every day and night, there is no doubt about it
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
I don't usually say things like this to girls your age
But when I saw you coming out of the school that day
That day I knew, I knew (Christine sixteen)
I've got to have you, I've got to have you
She's' been around, but she's young and clean
I've got to have her, can't live without her, whoa no
Christine sixteen, Christine sixteen
Christine (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah, yeah
She's so clean (Christine), sixteen (sixteen)
Christine, yeah…


No one batted an eye lash.

Now I'm not defending the actions in anyway, but it's an angle that should be considered. And also, nothings proven at this point.
It's been a LONG time since rock music was expected to have a moral compass

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:16 PM   #50
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I actually just asked socialist jew weed woman about this because she works in sexual violence education.

Q: Should Franken resign?
A: I'm not sure. What he did is pretty bad. His victim said she didn't want him to resign.
Q: Is what he and Conyers did comparable to Roy Moore?
A: No. It's bad, but Roy Moore is pedophile rapist

so in case you needed an expert to give you this fucking obvious truth fuzzy, there it is

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:16 PM   #51
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I also find it odd that these accusations all bubble up right before the election... The timing seems a little too convenient, which could lead credence to the idea that someone was paid to make it up or at least perhaps get the date a couple years wrong.

I'm not going that far, but there's a difference between a guy in his late 20's/early 30's nailing 16 and 17 year olds in the 70's as opposed to your run of the mill pedophile.

 
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I also find it odd that these accusations all bubble up right before the election... The timing seems a little too convenient, which could lead credence to the idea that someone was paid to make it up or at least perhaps get the date a couple years wrong.

I'm not going that far, but there's a difference between a guy in his late 20's/early 30's nailing 16 and 17 year olds in the 70's as opposed to your run of the mill pedophile.
you are despicable

 
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Again, I'm not justifying the behavior. But a little context is necessary.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:18 PM   #54
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I also find it odd that these accusations all bubble up right before the election... The timing seems a little too convenient, which could lead credence to the idea that someone was paid to make it up.

I'm not going that far, but there's a difference between a guy in his late 20's/early 30's nailing 16 and 17 year olds in the 70's as opposed to your run of the mill pedophile.
It only matters if the accusations are true. Even you seem pretty well convinced that they are true, even if you are trying to handwave them away. Why should the timing matter? Also, have you not been paying attention to the current cultural climate in America for the past month or so?

 
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And as troubling as it is to admit, it was a different time and place back then as far as the culture went. It was more socially acceptable back in the 1970's for guys in their 20's and 30's to bang high school girls. You'd see movies where it was glorified all of the time... Some loser in his 20's or early 30's all stoked that he banged the hot cheerleader.
Was it legal for a thirty-something dude to attempt sex with a minor in the 1970s?

Wanton violence is glorified in movies all of the time, too. Sweet argument.

 
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:18 PM   #56
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Again, I'm not justifying the behavior. But a little context is necessary.
But you are.

"It happened in the '70s, it's not the same as the Dems!"

 
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"I'm not saying I disbelieve the victims, I just disbelieve them."

"C'mon guys, raping a 14-year-old isn't as bad as raping someone who is prepubescent"

 
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You don't think these rockstars in the 70's were banging groupies that were teenagers?

Politicians basically act like they're rockstars when they're outta the limelight.

 
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I actually just asked socialist jew weed woman about this because she works in sexual violence education.

Q: Should Franken resign?
A: I'm not sure. What he did is pretty bad. His victim said she didn't want him to resign.
Q: Is what he and Conyers did comparable to Roy Moore?
A: No. It's bad, but Roy Moore is pedophile rapist

so in case you needed an expert to give you this fucking obvious truth fuzzy, there it is
Franken has had a few more accusations tossed his way as of late. He's baggage. He's gotta go.

 
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You don't think these rockstars in the 70's were banging groupies that were teenagers?

Politicians basically act like they're rockstars when they're outta the limelight.
....is this supposed to be an argument

 
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