Poll: Which is the Pumpkins Magnum Opus- SD or MCIS?

[FoolofaTook]

for me when i see "mcis" i automatically think era and that i n c l u d e s tafh and gravity and the ultramegasuper live silverfucks.

it's a no brainer, fellahs! money in the bank.

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

actually, nothing is better than vol. 4

That's just like your opinion man.

As the story goes, Tony Iommi once said that Sleep’s Holy Mountain was the album which best encompassed the feel and spirit of Black Sabbath’s Volume 4. When he said this and who he said it to have been forgotten, but it’s become an urban legend in stoner/doom circles.

[Ram27]

SD is an absolute sonic masterpiece. Perfect record of the dreamy and heavy side of SP

MCIS has too many shitty, weird songs on it [especially knowing what they left out instead]. The production is super flat and dry.

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in terms of eras things are a lot closer. The only reason I wouldn't want to give MCIS the edge is because of the whole tragedy in the middle, and I like the wardrobe in SD better [pajama shows excluded, I think the nightly Zero shirt was dumb, I like the SD era Jimbo wearing button down shirts lol]

The live Ruby/Porcelina/Silverfuck are just fucking unreal and some of the best things the band ever did

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we're actually doing this thread huh

[FoolofaTook]

Rambro ... no.


What's next, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is better than the Sciences?

[Joey Goldberg]

at this point i honestly don't think there are even tracks on MCIS i dislike

tru shit

[FoolofaTook]

yeah. and for the weak ones (bwbw and take me down and lily) there are corresponding weak ones on SD (today and sweet sweet).

zero ep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> siamese dreams

[FoolofaTook]

YEAH I JUST WENT THERE

YOU WANNA GO? COME ON THAN!

[Joey Goldberg]

Bullet & Lily are weak, lol? you aren't worthy of Team MC, cretin...

[Joey Goldberg]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

zero ep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> siamese dreams

i see the ol' birthday myth of "one year older, one year wiser" is a clear load of shit!

[FoolofaTook]

hehe yeah i was foolfing there


srsly tho bwbw and lily are weak af. espeically when think that songs like strtj, pennies, marquis, mouths of babez, medellia, could of been picked instead.

[FoolofaTook]

i'll say this about sd tho: rocket, hummer, mayo, and soma are ABSOLUTE PERFECTION.

[smashingjj]

apart from the aforementioned songs, love was always my least favourite song on it

cupid de locke is so-so, bullet isn't fantastic, take me down isn't as bad as people say it is but it also isn't great

i have a soft spot for lily and wocoan but they're probably not great

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

hehe yeah i was foolfing there


srsly tho bwbw and lily are weak af. espeically when think that songs like strtj, pennies, marquis, mouths of babez, medellia, could of been picked instead.

all these pale in comparison to ruby (pit mix #3)

[Squish Squash]

Ah I love BWBW. It’s definitely memeable but I’m a big fan of all the cybermetal songs on MCIS. WOCOAN is great, I don’t care what anyone says haha.

[Squish Squash]

What are your guys thoughts on Beautiful and To Forgive? I think those are two of SP’s best songs personally.

[FoolofaTook]

beautiful is solid gold goodness

[Squish Squash]

Guess who sings co-lead on a of that track?

That’s right, muhfuggin D’Arcy Elizabeth Wretzky.

[FoolofaTook]

hell yeah. it's absolutely no coincidence that the band's peak era was when james contributed tons of songs, darcy played bass on everything, and jimmy was adding cool shit to stuff like cupid. what i'm trying to say is everyone was involved.

[Squish Squash]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

hell yeah. it's absolutely no coincidence that the band's peak era was when james contributed tons of songs, darcy played bass on everything, and jimmy was adding cool shit to stuff like cupid. what i'm trying to say is everyone was involved.

Forgotten Child and AveryLoren will be here to tell us it was alllll the Great Corgan though.

[FoolofaTook]

Hereabouts we respectfully use the honorific "Bald Lord" or "Bald One" or "B0llzebub".

[Squish Squash]

Took I can’t believe you don’t love Today. That is my favorite song of all time. Maybe because I’m also super depressed like Billy was. At least my ego isn’t gargantuan.

[FoolofaTook]

eh its too radio friendly. i mean its not offensive. just bland. but i understand why ppl love it.

[Squish Squash]

I can see why you say that. It just resonates with me personally so I’m biased.

[houseofglass11]

Exactly 0 tracks on MCIS are weak. Thnx.

[panda show]

Originally Posted by incubator

Gish - if you’re too cool to admit to liking smashing pumpkins
SD - if you’re a stoner
MCIS - if you’re 16 and/or an Incel
Adore - if you’ve never heard Plastic Ono Band
Machina - if you’re a stoner with a really nice hifi
Machina 2 - if you think you’re cooler than you are
Zeitgeist - I don’t know
Teargarden - you believe in chemtrails
Oceania - you’re a Christian and the other records are a bit too heavy for you
MTAE - you like Tommy lee
Shiny - you’re an amnesiac and don’t remember any of the other albums

agree, especially about the mcis part
in fact I would also add the category "40 year old who was 15 in '95" to the MCIS label

Gish - if you’re too cool to admit to liking smashing pumpkins

this is me

[Joey Goldberg]

the only part i really love on Beautiful is the coda, tbh

song as a whole always kinda came off to me as a middling Beatles tribute or something

[Squish Squash]

Bullshit. The whole song is excellent. D’Arcy always compliments Billy amazingly on vocals.

[Joey Goldberg]

that post was one sentence short of getting an "OK BILLY"

[Joey Goldberg]

in any case, we should be banding against our common enemy right now

that enemy being incubator

[Squish Squash]

That’s true. Incubator and panda show are certified UNTROO fans.



Although if you have a D’Arcy muhfuckin Wretzky avatar you can’t be all bad.