why aren't live recordings split into multiple discs anymore

JUnderscore · 11-05-2008, 11:23 PM

more and more i'm finding that the shows i download are not split onto multiple CDs, but instead just many continuous tracks. why is this?
are people not wanting to bother with fade in/out?
do they want us to decide where CD1 ends and CD2 begins?
are people not burning shows to CD anymore?

how do you handle these recordings?

Azael · 11-05-2008, 11:37 PM

hard-drive space is cheaper these days, lots of people don't burn their flacs to CDs anymore. Just playing the whole concert without fades from start to finish is nice.

I just try to split it evenly so each CD has a reasonable amount of music on as few discs as possible.

Moose · 11-06-2008, 01:15 AM

nobody burns cd's in this age of mp3/digital audio players

Cool As Ice Cream · 11-06-2008, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azael

I just try to split it evenly so each CD has a reasonable amount of music on as few discs as possible.

i prefer a split between set and encore, if possible.

i've seen people making the split (with fades, unfortunately) in the middle of the show, just so that each cd would have an equal amount of music. that was a shame.

trev · 11-06-2008, 08:14 AM

yeah let people do their own fades, just circulate the continuous music files.

lucid_interval · 11-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUnderscore

more and more i'm finding that the shows i download are not split onto multiple CDs, but instead just many continuous tracks. why is this?
are people not wanting to bother with fade in/out?
do they want us to decide where CD1 ends and CD2 begins?
are people not burning shows to CD anymore?

how do you handle these recordings?

you basically want one of these

http://whathifi.com/Review/Naim-HDX/ (yes it plays up to 24-bit FLAC or WAV)

or a cheaper equivalent

edit: you can also connect it to a TV to browse and play your files via their own GUI

ameyer · 11-07-2008, 05:18 PM

In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.

Cool As Ice Cream · 11-07-2008, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ameyer

In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.

you mean like this? http://www.archive.org/details/tsp20...22.mbho.flac16

smashing0 · 11-07-2008, 05:31 PM

speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all

Skradgee · 11-07-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ameyer

In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.

this. It takes a little more time to do the editing though...it's mildly irritating, but more professional.

Sometimes when I'm recording I do have to cut over from one deck to another. Basically, if there's a cut on the master, just try to do the best you can with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid_interval

you basically want one of these

Naim HDX review - whathifi.com (yes it plays up to 24-bit FLAC or WAV)

Ha ha! Too bad it only costs ~$8,923.

JUnderscore · 11-07-2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashing0

speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all

i wasn't complaining at all. simply wondering if there was an explanation for the change i've seen over the years.

Rider · 11-08-2008, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUnderscore

i wasn't complaining at all. simply wondering if there was an explanation for the change i've seen over the years.

Is it really that hard to figure that cutting a show up to fit on an antiquated piece technology is not a good idea. I demand we go back to making all shows fit on 2, 90 minute Maxelll tapes.

cabbage · 11-08-2008, 01:10 AM

Rider, I'm sure Billy agrees with you about the cassettes.

I stopped splitting shows to discs 2-3 years ago. CDs are dead. Personally I play the Flac's on my iRiver h120. When I am at home I use Cog on my Mac Mini that is hooked up to my TV and speakers.

Sacred Age Of Innocence · 11-08-2008, 03:38 AM

I'm sorry but for years many have been horrible with properly splitting a show up. I archive shows I go to & usually provide copies to the artist/band since I'm friends with them anyway. I would never give a poorly split cd. No excuse to not take the time to do it right.

IWishIWasBlank · 11-08-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacred Age Of Innocence

I would never give a poorly split cd. No excuse to not take the time to do it right.

This.

Bobbin TB · 11-09-2008, 05:42 PM

personally i dont like the fades and splits and im sure thats the reason. if you want them i image theyd figure you can do it yourself.

Shallowed · 11-09-2008, 05:54 PM

Download a fucking free recording program like REAPER and fade it your fucking self

Cool As Ice Cream · 11-09-2008, 07:55 PM

shudduppe yaface

ameyer · 11-09-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

you mean like this? Internet Archive: Details: Smashing Pumpkins Live at Le Grand Rex on 2007-05-22

Yes, something like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashing0

speaking for myself mostly...
i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all

Yes.

JUnderscore · 11-09-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta of Muppet

Download a fucking free recording program like REAPER and fade it your fucking self

Oh, Pasta. You have such a way with words.

slunken · 11-09-2008, 10:19 PM

haha when you say it like that it's like his name isn't taken from a shitty knock-off font but a food.

croPUMPKINS · 11-10-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose

nobody burns cd's in this age of mp3/digital audio players

depends... If you are a trader, you definatelly don't want an mp3 cause there ain't much you can do with it. Ie. I still trade and therefore don't want any mp3's. If you d'load it for your purpouse, I supposse you don't mind.

rolmos · 11-10-2008, 04:10 PM

FLACs croPUMPKINS, FLACs!

T&T · 11-10-2008, 05:00 PM

the releases from livesmashingpumpkins.com are split onto multiple discs.

trev · 11-11-2008, 11:40 AM

you think billy or the pumpkins opinion / position on a matter is going to have much influence here?

just because BC / SP do it that way means it's the best? right....

phoenix79 · 11-13-2008, 02:43 AM

Simple no fades, only recommend when someone releases a show for them to create a set list saying:
CD1
...list of songs..... then
CD2
...and the remainder.

Makes it easier to be recognized on CDDB (if someone uploads the data) if one standard is made. Then let whom ever downloads it add fades and such if they so wish.

redbull · 11-13-2008, 03:18 AM

nobody uses CDs anymore CDRs are the whole reason nothing on the hub has lineage wlkgajst;jsalgkjalkjt

phoenix79 · 11-13-2008, 05:41 AM

sorry redbull but I do both. I keep a digital copy for local PC listening but I actually burn concerts I like onto a lightscribe CD then burn the artwork and setlist onto the CD's.

11-05-2008, 11:23 PM	#1
JUnderscore Demi-God Location: Morphine City Posts: 436	why aren't live recordings split into multiple discs anymore more and more i'm finding that the shows i download are not split onto multiple CDs, but instead just many continuous tracks. why is this? are people not wanting to bother with fade in/out? do they want us to decide where CD1 ends and CD2 begins? are people not burning shows to CD anymore? how do you handle these recordings?

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11-05-2008, 11:37 PM	#2
Azael Apocalyptic Poster Location: Australia Posts: 1,177	hard-drive space is cheaper these days, lots of people don't burn their flacs to CDs anymore. Just playing the whole concert without fades from start to finish is nice. I just try to split it evenly so each CD has a reasonable amount of music on as few discs as possible.

11-06-2008, 01:15 AM	#3
Moose Oblivious Virgin Posts: 26	nobody burns cd's in this age of mp3/digital audio players

11-06-2008, 08:14 AM	#5
trev charm Location: Naarm, Wurundjeri, Woiwurrung, Kulin Nations Posts: 2,223	yeah let people do their own fades, just circulate the continuous music files.

11-07-2008, 05:18 PM	#7
ameyer Pledge Posts: 111	In my opinion, recordings should be tracked for CDs with fade tracks that create a seamless recording when removed unless there's something like a tape flip at the disk change.

11-07-2008, 05:31 PM	#9
smashing0 ZOMB User Relations Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,336	speaking for myself mostly... i think you should be happy that tapers take the time transfer, track, edit files at all

11-08-2008, 01:10 AM	#13
cabbage Demi-God Posts: 280	Rider, I'm sure Billy agrees with you about the cassettes. I stopped splitting shows to discs 2-3 years ago. CDs are dead. Personally I play the Flac's on my iRiver h120. When I am at home I use Cog on my Mac Mini that is hooked up to my TV and speakers.

11-08-2008, 03:38 AM	#14
Sacred Age Of Innocence Ownz Posts: 728	I'm sorry but for years many have been horrible with properly splitting a show up. I archive shows I go to & usually provide copies to the artist/band since I'm friends with them anyway. I would never give a poorly split cd. No excuse to not take the time to do it right.

11-09-2008, 05:42 PM	#16
Bobbin TB Apocalyptic Poster Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 1,525	personally i dont like the fades and splits and im sure thats the reason. if you want them i image theyd figure you can do it yourself.

11-09-2008, 05:54 PM	#17
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	Download a fucking free recording program like REAPER and fade it your fucking self

11-09-2008, 07:55 PM	#18
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	shudduppe yaface

11-09-2008, 10:19 PM	#21
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	haha when you say it like that it's like his name isn't taken from a shitty knock-off font but a food.

11-10-2008, 04:10 PM	#23
rolmos Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,349	FLACs croPUMPKINS, FLACs!

11-10-2008, 05:00 PM	#24
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,679	the releases from livesmashingpumpkins.com are split onto multiple discs.

11-11-2008, 11:40 AM	#25
trev charm Location: Naarm, Wurundjeri, Woiwurrung, Kulin Nations Posts: 2,223	you think billy or the pumpkins opinion / position on a matter is going to have much influence here? just because BC / SP do it that way means it's the best? right....

11-13-2008, 02:43 AM	#26
phoenix79 Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	Simple no fades, only recommend when someone releases a show for them to create a set list saying: CD1 ...list of songs..... then CD2 ...and the remainder. Makes it easier to be recognized on CDDB (if someone uploads the data) if one standard is made. Then let whom ever downloads it add fades and such if they so wish.

11-13-2008, 03:18 AM	#27
redbull Immortal Location: like liutenant dan i'm rollin' Posts: 21,016	nobody uses CDs anymore CDRs are the whole reason nothing on the hub has lineage wlkgajst;jsalgkjalkjt

11-13-2008, 05:41 AM	#28
phoenix79 Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 14	sorry redbull but I do both. I keep a digital copy for local PC listening but I actually burn concerts I like onto a lightscribe CD then burn the artwork and setlist onto the CD's.