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Old 09-29-2011, 04:54 PM   #1
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Default Yo people, sign this petition

http://www.getmoneyout.com/

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:56 PM   #2
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the united states, what a trash heap.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:24 PM   #3
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It doesn't surprise me that you think internet petitions do something.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:28 PM   #4
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I'm not saying it will do anything because all chances are that it wont.

But to not try is to concede to how things are.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:30 PM   #5
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politicians won't do it, but we're going to get a constitutional amendment

these people haven't really thought this through, have they

the only thing we can really do is wait for antonin scalia to die/retire and make sure it happens when there is a democratic president

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:48 PM   #6
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This is a thinly hidden attempt to keep incumbents in office. Something like this floats around every 4 years or so, always perpetuated by the party in power.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:49 PM   #7
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This is a thinly hidden attempt to keep incumbents in office. Something like this floats around every 4 years or so, always perpetuated by the party in power.
campaign finance reform is a hidden attempt to keep incumbents in office?

what?

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:34 PM   #8
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campaign finance reform is a hidden attempt to keep incumbents in office?

what?
did you read the petition?

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:55 PM   #9
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Yeah, nothing of that sort is in there.


"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office."

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:58 PM   #10
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Yeah, nothing of that sort is in there.


"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office."
Nobody can donate money to a candidate. How are the challengers supposed to relay their names, positions, etc? Oh, that's right, they're not. Everyone knows the incumbent though.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:07 PM   #11
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Oh. That's dumb.

Money needs to be limited, not eliminated.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:08 PM   #12
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I stopped reading at "Constitutional amendment," btw

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:40 PM   #13
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I stopped reading at "Constitutional amendment," btw
It's the only way you can eliminate the Supreme Court's decision that a contribution is protected by the First Amendment.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:20 PM   #14
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It's the only way you can eliminate the Supreme Court's decision that a contribution is protected by the First Amendment.
But you can't amend the constitution without politicians. Lots of them. So it's a dumb thing to say "politicians won't do it" and then say "we're gonna get a ton of politicians to do this!"

I already covered what needs to happen to be able to move toward overturning citizen's united. A lot more feasible than a constitutional amendment.

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:08 PM   #15
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Oh. That's dumb.

Money needs to be limited, not eliminated.
or even accounted for at this point

 
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:13 PM   #16
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Yeah that's dumber than all fucking hell. So basically only the extremely wealthy can even launch a campaign. That sounds like a great idea.

 
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:26 AM   #17
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Yeah that's dumber than all fucking hell. So basically only the extremely wealthy can even launch a campaign. That sounds like a great idea.
yeah, seriously

who started this bullshit?

 
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:15 PM   #18
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governdment.

 
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:27 PM   #19
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this here system of governdment has worked for a century and

 
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