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01-30-2012, 07:58 AM | #151 | |
someone more...punk rock?
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desire is spontaneous. regardless of whether or not we have free will, our impulses are still just that. they are not willed; they arise from somewhere in the brain that is invisible to consciousness. you are hungry. you want company. you want to sleep. these sorts of things are fundamental, pre-agency – they arrive in the mind wholly formed and without invitation. this doesn't mean we don't have free will – the conscious mind's ability to override our impulses is the common-sense argument for free will. the meat robot argument approaches from a different direction entirely. but that's all beside the point, which is: pay attention |
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01-30-2012, 08:01 AM | #152 |
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01-30-2012, 08:11 AM | #153 |
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01-30-2012, 08:32 AM | #154 |
huh
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all bodies are objects
we are all attracted to certain varieties of them some women like participating in porn, viewing porn, getting ejaculate all over their faces (and some people find it degrading. people have different sexual interests!), etc. some don't. to throw a blanket over the entire industry and its consumers because you think it's all unforgivably exploitative is stupid. you can't on one hand say "RESPECT MY RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED AND UNCOMFORTABLE" while at the same time mandating that everyone conform to your beliefs (and that is what is being done here). |
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01-30-2012, 08:35 AM | #155 |
huh
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i will admit though that i don't get what it is about consensual sex acts that makes people uncomfortable
just because there can be aspects of submissiveness built into a sex act doesn't mean it needs to translate into submissiveness in any other context. i really don't think anyone should be judged for any consensual and adult sexual activity. getting all abstract about it in order to make some point about subjugation is unnecessary and obnoxious and doesn't accomplish anything and picks the wrong targets. |
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01-30-2012, 09:45 AM | #156 |
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01-30-2012, 02:26 PM | #157 | |
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01-30-2012, 02:32 PM | #158 |
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01-30-2012, 02:38 PM | #159 |
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Brendan, just because there is no such thing as free will, that doesn't mean humans are incapable of operating as a civilized society instead of like a pack of wolves. In fact, one way of operating may prove to be more beneficial to its members. A change of heart may be written into the script. Or at least an ounce of reflection and self-analysis.
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01-30-2012, 02:49 PM | #160 |
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there is no free will? where did you get that?
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01-30-2012, 03:01 PM | #161 |
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There isn't. Deal with it.
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01-30-2012, 03:02 PM | #162 |
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well, all right. in that case there's nothing i can do about it.
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01-30-2012, 04:28 PM | #163 | |
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http://www.zyzyo.com/wp-content/uplo...us-de-Milo.jpg is just a less bad version of this http://www.bdsmtsunami.com/wp/wp-con...s-2011a012.jpg |
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01-30-2012, 04:30 PM | #164 |
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he didn't say theft was a less bad version of murder.
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01-30-2012, 04:31 PM | #165 |
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you totally freak out every time you're wrong.
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01-30-2012, 04:40 PM | #166 | |
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01-30-2012, 04:40 PM | #167 |
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he said they were crimes of varying degrees of un-desirableness, an analogy meant to illustrate that both trots' emma stone thing and my nipples thing are both undesirable exploitation and objectification of women. So by that logic, any portrayal of a female as attractive is objectification to some degree.
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01-30-2012, 04:43 PM | #168 |
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posting little nudies like a prepubescent curly-haired freak is.
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01-30-2012, 04:45 PM | #169 |
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good argument
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01-30-2012, 04:50 PM | #170 |
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HIDE YR KIDS HIDE YR WIFE
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01-30-2012, 04:50 PM | #171 |
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i'm just asking questions here, i dunno if it's a by product of people having respect for my intelligence that they assume that all of this is elementary but i am a student here as far as i'm concerned
when it comes to economic issues i'm more sure of my footing but i'm not very good at the social game in general, let alone considering social constructs and etc. i understand it on a basic level, but i'm just asking questions i'm trying to stop being rude but it's a force of habit |
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01-30-2012, 05:00 PM | #172 | |
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when we're talking about famous women I think are cute, i have a lot of criteria for it. Yes, Katy Perry is hot but that's about all that's noteworthy about her, and so I'm not really very interested. However, Corin Tucker is a bawse and she's really strong, confident, and her vox are like a banshee howling on the moors and she's equally effective singing astute politically or socially motivated lyrics or just singing about fucking. She's cute. Super cute. I'm not fetishizing her nipples. And it's been socially acceptable for women to swoon for musicians for decades, but when a man does it it's weird, creepy or sexist or something. I dunno, i read something with neko case complaining about the lack of male groupies and i'm like gee i'd love to make out with neko case. Last edited by Trotskilicious : 01-30-2012 at 05:28 PM. |
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01-30-2012, 06:47 PM | #173 |
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hmm
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01-30-2012, 06:50 PM | #174 |
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i don't really have any sway with the admins, i think the only one that i'm not actively ugly to is andy slash
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01-30-2012, 07:27 PM | #175 |
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trots what the shit are you talking about
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01-30-2012, 07:28 PM | #176 |
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i'm talking to charmbag because i can read muted posts you dingbat
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01-30-2012, 07:28 PM | #177 |
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or if you're still confused why the fact that nipple worship is different than crushing on musicians i can't help you
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01-30-2012, 08:05 PM | #178 |
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nothing wrong with loving girls with guitars
nothing wrong with loving girls with boobs |
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01-30-2012, 08:39 PM | #179 |
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nah you should love a girl based on who she is rather than her tits.
how hard is that to understand |
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01-30-2012, 08:41 PM | #180 |
huh
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physical attraction is an ok thing, guys
the important thing is to remember that people are much more than just their tits. not to try to deny that physical attributes are important. |
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