Big Smashing Pumpkins announcement coming this Monday (March 24th)

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by slunken

It's been confirmed that O was mostly electronic drums. So more specifically they probably took what he played and erased 90% of it and replaced it with drum programming. All you can hear that sounds like a live player are toms.

Where did you hear this?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by slunken

It's been confirmed that O was mostly electronic drums. So more specifically they probably took what he played and erased 90% of it and replaced it with drum programming. All you can hear that sounds like a live player are toms.

Are you serious? That's hilarious. I never heard that. No wonder it sounds like shit.

It's mind blowing that Corgans even bothering with that kind of bush-league approach after he's played with a world-class drummer like Chamberlin for all these years.

[Banana]

I wonder if the guy ever even had anything to announce or if he just wanted to see if he could still get people talking about him for a period of time.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Are you serious? That's hilarious. I never heard that. No wonder it sounds like shit.

yea there's an article or two somewhere where both he and mikey talk about how the drums went down. one of them is kind of funny because mike is so clueless and going on about what billy did with the e-drums.

[fuzzyroes]

Lol what a joke. The drums are some of my biggest issues with Oceania. They just sound so sterile and weak and it affects the rest of the music. It just doesn't "mesh".

You hear Zeitgeist and the music sounds tight and throbbing.

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by slunken

It's been confirmed that O was mostly electronic drums. So more specifically they probably took what he played and erased 90% of it and replaced it with drum programming. All you can hear that sounds like a live player are toms.

Source?

[slunken]

yea i looked briefly and couldn't find the articles i was looking for

[slunken]

most of the ostinato drumming is live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostinato like the pounding toms in the title track

[slunken]

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Dudley Moore

The cymbals were recorded separately. Stop exaggerating.

haha seriously?!

That's hilarious.

I've helped out in studios before and this is what producers/engineers do with with shit drummers in order to make things easier for them.

"forget about any of the cymbal hits, just play the basic, steady rhythm and we'll add in the cymbals later"

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Dudley Moore

The cymbals were recorded separately. Stop exaggerating.

you can hear electronic bass hits about once every 4 bars in every song. they sound like miniature doom explosions. those are programmed drums to keep things steady.

[slunken]

Yea I don't see how he thinks that hurts my argument.

[Spira|_]

No annoucement omg....
Maybe Monte just messed with billys message and the date were not 24th. And he didnt figure it out yet, so he stills just waiting as all of us.

[Banana]

Monte and Crestfallen have officially lost all credibility.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by bambam

There's stuff that's programmed but any time you hear acoustic kit is all click-less, which was a real interesting challenge but it makes the pockets seem much more natural. I'll be honest there were moments I was banging my head against the wall but I think the overall feel of the album benefits from it.

acoustic kit being the toms/ostinato style i was referring to

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Banana

Monte and Crestfallen have officially lost all credibility.

Yeah, wheres Monte's explanation for this false information?

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by Spira|_

No annoucement omg....
Maybe Monte just messed with billys message and the date were not 24th. And he didnt figure it out yet, so he stills just waiting as all of us.

Billy tweeted it himself. Monday is the day.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

haha seriously?!

That's hilarious.

I've helped out in studios before and this is what producers/engineers do with with shit drummers in order to make things easier for them.

"forget about any of the cymbal hits, just play the basic, steady rhythm and we'll add in the cymbals later"

This is how the drums for Songs for the Deaf were recorded.

[s0ss]

No announcement is the best announcement.

[Shallowed]

As for Oceania's drums, I didn't know that it was electronic drums, but I've also heard that the drum tracks were heavily chopped and edited.

Not that Siamese Dream's drum tracks weren't also heavily edited, though that was with tape.

[slunken]

maybe the big news wouldn't be coming directly from him and it really is some festival announcement.

did he say he would be delivering news?

[slunken]

oh god i've been duped by my own retarded fandom

[Order 66]

HE ECHO RINGS FOREVER ON

[Funbags]

I hope Pitchfork do a scathing write-up on this.

"Billy makes announcement of announcement. Fails to deliver. Again."

Fucker deserves it.

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by Funbags

I hope Pitchfork do a scathing write-up on this.

"Billy makes announcement of announcement. Fails to deliver. Again."

Fucker deserves it.

what difference would it make?

[Banana]

He isn't relevant enough for that.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by slunken

maybe the big news wouldn't be coming directly from him and it really is some festival announcement.

did he say he would be delivering news?

answering my own question:

We just got an email that this Monday you can expect a “BIG ANNOUNCEMENT” from the Smashing Pumpkins camp.

emphasis mine

[slunken]

cheers billy

[fuzzyroes]

Well, it's pretty obvious that this news isn't of the magnitude of which we were all hoping. If that were the case Corgan would have been ecstatic to post the news and would have done so in a timely fashion.

It probably is just some announcement about He, Byrne, Jeff, Nicole playing a support stage on Lolla or something.

[Tuscaloosa]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

playing a support stage on Lolla

he wouldn't