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Old 05-23-2007, 08:08 PM   #1
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Red face wait, wait, wait: when did billy start singing the pro-jesus "BWBW"?

anybody?

"jesus was a chosen son for you"



i mean, was this new for '07?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:08 PM   #2
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:09 PM   #3
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i mean, did he even sing "god is empty" on zero?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:09 PM   #4
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"oh my god I can't believe this..."

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:10 PM   #5
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sources say he actually sung "and god is making a giant comeback to great critical acclaim, just like ME!"...

nb. sources may be on crack

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:11 PM   #6
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nice

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:11 PM   #7
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ever wonder why they kill the weak ones baby

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:15 PM   #8
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so they can't testify

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:16 PM   #9
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yeah he said god is empty, but I couldn't make out whether he said like me or like you (as he's done plenty of times before)

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:16 PM   #10
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repenting

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:26 PM   #11
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are the pumpkins christian rock now?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:30 PM   #12
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are the pumpkins christian rock now?
You know you might be joking but lets look at the facts.

Billy and Jimmy ranting about happy haapy Jesus for years now.
Former member of a christian rock band joining the band.
The lyrics to "for God and Country" I could be reading to much into it but

I really wonder maybe once we hear the album the concept is that america needs to find god or some shit like that.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:38 PM   #13
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You know you might be joking but lets look at the facts.

I am serious. I want to know what the fuck is going on.

Is this part of the reason why they're only giving one interview?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:39 PM   #14
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I could be wrong but doesnt he sing "jesus was an only son for you" in te album version?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:40 PM   #15
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nevermind what the hell am i talking about sorry. i was reading this wrong

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:48 PM   #16
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are the pumpkins christian rock now?
Ginger and Jeff do come from a Christian rock background.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:55 PM   #17
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The line "Jesus was an only son for you" was clearly a lyric on the original studio version recorded many years ago.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:02 PM   #18
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The line "Jesus was an only son for you" was clearly a lyric on the original studio version recorded many years ago.
Yeah, now it's "Jesus was a chosen son for you," which is different!

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:02 PM   #19
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The line "Jesus was an only son for you" was clearly a lyric on the original studio version recorded many years ago.
Your new to reading ain't ya.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:03 PM   #20
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http://www.sarahkapoor.com/pumpkins/8.jpg


OOMPA LOOMPA DOOPITY DOO
I LOVE JESUS AND SO SHOULD YOU

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:09 PM   #21
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Yeah, now it's "Jesus was a chosen son for you," which is different!
actually, this sounds better and is possibly what he originally meant when he wrote the song -- he may have censored himself so that other people (of different or non-existent faiths) would like it

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:11 PM   #22
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actually, this sounds better and is possibly what he originally meant when he wrote the song -- he may have censored himself so that other people (of different or non-existent faiths) would like it
Since when did that become an issue at a Pumpkins show?

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:13 PM   #23
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Your new to reading ain't ya.
Either way, the lyrics of the song are kinda anti-Christian nonetheless...."I still believe that I cannot be saved" repeatedly...This is hardly a Sunday morning church singalong

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:41 PM   #24
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he sings 'jesus was a bastard son of a bastard son for you'

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:41 PM   #25
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I think it might have just been a mis-sung lyric, if anything. The guy hasn't played the song in 7 years. But I don't think it changes the meaning of the song at all regardless. Some of you seem always a little too quick to think that if Billy expresses anything less than cynicism or hostility to Christian religion then it means he's gone Christian rock.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:45 PM   #26
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actually, this sounds better and is possibly what he originally meant when he wrote the song -- he may have censored himself so that other people (of different or non-existent faiths) would like it
i always assumed the line meant that jesus endured infinite sadness due to being an only son and not due to tortures

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:46 PM   #27
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he sings 'jesus was a bastard son of a bastard son for you'
I can't believe I missed that!

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:46 PM   #28
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he made a lot of mistakes in it, on the first chorus instead of singing "Despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage" for the 2nd time he almost goes into the "someone will say..." part but he quickly catches himself and saves face.

in terms of the original song, im pretty sure jesus = kurt cobain and how billy was picked to be the next "grunge king" (tell me i'm the only one, tell me theres no other one) but how kurt cobain was the epitome of grunge and the 90's in general and they would never truly accept him as the next leader of 90's rock (but jesus was the only son for you). that's just how i read into it, anyway.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:49 PM   #29
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I'm going to go out on a limb here... now hear me out... perhaps it means nothing.

 
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:53 PM   #30
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