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[vixnix]

Well, they exist everywhere that I've lived.

Not in the CBD but in the adjacent suburbs, which I consider to be still part of the city centre.

[reprise85]

shit like that doesn't exist in s. fl unless you live in like the little inlets on palm beach and those homes are many millions

im trying to find there's this one town with a few hundred people, the median income is like 20k because they pay their slaves i mean housemaids of color shitty wages to live in home while they all are technically citizens of other counties

[vixnix]

Sydney's an old enough city I guess, that houses were built close to the CBD, and the greenery hasn't been stripped out yet.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Well, they exist everywhere that I've lived.

Not in the CBD but in the adjacent suburbs, which I consider to be still part of the city centre.

that's the suburbs by its very definition but whatever

[vixnix]

Oh well I guess when I talk to other adults about this stuff, I take for granted that we all know that there are no manor homes in the CBD. But whatever.

[vixnix]

I think if you're from a small city (like I am) it can be really hard to grasp the scale of larger cities. Ordinary people don't really get to choose whether or not they live in the suburbs, in Sydney. If you want to live in a house, you live in the outer suburbs - unless you have $3million to spend.

[bignothing]

I once got into a ridiculous argument with an australian friend over the definition of a suburb... i didn't know then that it could be used to mean within actual city limits.

[vixnix]

Well we're within the city limits, but those stretch an hour's train ride in every direction...

[Trotskilicious]

if it's a bunch of big houses on big plots its a suburb and 30 minutes or an hour is not "close to the city center" unless your standards are warped and they probably are

[bignothing]

I feel like that definition would mean that parts of Brooklyn, and most of Queens and Staten Island (never been to the Bronx) are suburbs of NYC and that doesn't make sense to me. Not really arguing with the definition, since it can be both depending on the country. Also pretty much any city will have a train ride within city limits that is at least 30 mins.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

if it's a bunch of big houses on big plots its a suburb and 30 minutes or an hour is not "close to the city center" unless your standards are warped and they probably are

I haven't argued that 30 mins to an hour is "close to the city centre". There are homes that are a 5 min drive from the city centre, I consider those to be homes 'close to the centre of town'.

Originally Posted by bignothing

I feel like that definition would mean that parts of Brooklyn, and most of Queens and Staten Island (never been to the Bronx) are suburbs of NYC and that doesn't make sense to me. Not really arguing with the definition, since it can be both depending on the country. Also pretty much any city will have a train ride within city limits that is at least 30 mins.

When I say an hour in every direction, I mean from the city centre, in that direction. So to get from the northern city limit to the southern, would actually take 2 hours.

[D.]

Originally Posted by vixnix

And we would. But here, those houses cost $3 million dollars, so unless either of you have that kind of money, why question my decision to live further from the city?

i think i originally questioned it was because of how you framed it - "i'd love to get out of the suburbs but i have kids" which to me implies that one must raise them there. in kcmo anyway, most of the kids raised in suburbs turn out to be insufferable shits.

our house was like 88k, i think? (god it's been six years jfc.) but we're also surrounded by the hoi polloi so i'm not sure how V will turn out, having to mingle with the commoners.

[D.]

pet peeve: when people say they are from kc and they really live 15+ mins from the city in any direction like no you live in independence, mo (or say, mission, ks) - if the address on your mail does not say kc then no you do not live in kc.

[MyOneAndOnly]

one of the most annoying things people do is live in a suburb and tell people that they're from a city that's an hour away. Like living in Joliet and telling people you're from Chicago.

[MyOneAndOnly]

a lot of white people do that here. they live in Brighton or Royal Oak or some other shit suburb and they tell people they live in detroit.

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by D.

i think i originally questioned it was because of how you framed it - "i'd love to get out of the suburbs but i have kids" which to me implies that one must raise them there. in kcmo anyway, most of the kids raised in suburbs turn out to be insufferable shits.

our house was like 88k, i think? (god it's been six years jfc.) but we're also surrounded by the hoi polloi so i'm not sure how V will turn out, having to mingle with the commoners.

yeah but don't you guys send her to a private montessori school, out of area??? Not like she goes to the local public or anything...

[MyOneAndOnly]

one big reason for staying in the small-ish city where I live now is that I can buy a house and live in the city. I paid $130k for my house 10 years ago. There are homes for sale in my neighborhood, 3 miles from the center of downtown, for about that price now.

And I can drive to Detroit or Chicago anytime I want. And I probably do so more often than 99% of people who live in the suburbs around those cities.

[vixnix]

We live less than 20km from the CBD. So less than 12 miles.

[vixnix]

But that's still 40 minutes away, because of traffic and geography. If there's no traffic and you take the toll roads, you can do it in about 20, in a car.

[redbreegull]

I always tell people I am from DC or "the DC area," if they are not from around here. It's easier than watching their faces as they mentally work to figure out where exactly Maryland is. I live about 6 miles north of the DC line.

[reprise85]

here there's only about 30 miles in most places between the ocean and the everglades so im not used to cities like that. from my city to the next is maybe 5 miles in two directions, 1 in one, and the ocean on the other

[vixnix]

It's the same here - Glenbrook is the start of the Blue Mountains, and that's 70km so 43 miles west. And the ocean is to the east. the Eastern suburbs are a very small area, and there's an annual run called the City to Surf where you run from the CBD to the coast, and it's 14km on foot, following a winding course.

But the city is split by the Parramatta River, so if you live in the north, like I do, getting to the other side of the water is what causes travel time to go up. That and the fact that things are just so built up. But even on the freeway, going to the airport last week took 1.5 hours in peak traffic. 40 mins on the way home. Freeways get pretty gridlocked during peak times.

[vixnix]

Sydney is apparently one of the 10 most expensive cities to buy property in, in the world though. Ahead of LA, Shanghai & Paris. The only U.S. city that costs more than Sydney to buy property in, is New York. That's according to the Telegraph's 2015 top ten list.

But Sydney usually features on the top ten most expensive cities list. People don't expect it to, because it's in the middle of nowhere and why the hell would anyone who can afford to live in Berlin, live in Sydney? But it is.

Sucks for those of us who can't live anywhere else but NZ and Australia. If you want to live in a city of size, with plenty of work, in the most stable economy available, Sydney is it, for NZ & Aus citizens. So we're stuck living in the outer burbs with all this foreign wealth, that comes here for the sunshine and water views.

[reprise85]

i mean the everglades is 30 miles away but civilization only goes about 10-15 miles max from the coast, in most places. there are a few really poor towns right near lake okeechobee that are further inland

[The exploding boy]

these are some cool aerial pics. I love cities pictures. Skylines but aerial shots too.

[The exploding boy]

i like turtles



too

[D.]

Originally Posted by vixnix

yeah but don't you guys send her to a private montessori school, out of area??? Not like she goes to the local public or anything...

All the public schools in our district are unaccredited. i mean, the school she goes to is still in the general area of where we live. It's still KCMO.

[vixnix]

But do all the other kids in your neighbourhood go to private schools, as well? Or the unaccredited public schools?

[vixnix]

We don't have accredited/unaccredited schools here, but this is the old school that my oldest was at. Red means that the school performs below the national average.

http://www.myschool.edu.au/ResultsIn...ool/42043/2014

We bought in that area because it was all we could afford. At that stage, our house cost $279k, and my husband commuted 1hr 45 minutes EACH WAY to work/home. So 3.5 hours of his day were spent in transit, 5 days per week.

[vixnix]

Renting where we are here, costs double what our mortgage does on that house.

So we could have spent $1500 per month on private school fees, but that still would have left my husband with a 3.5 hour per day commute.

So we moved here, where it takes him an hour, door to door, and the local public school is better than the private schools in our previous area.

But you know, it's also the place where adults' dreams come to die.

Did you make it to 35 with nothing to show for your life but offspring and borrowing power for a large mortgage? You might be ready for life in Sydney's outer suburbs!