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Old 03-07-2007, 01:14 PM   #1
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/n...greement#41574

Indie Labels Score in Radio Payola Agreement
(Maybe)

Apparently, in this age of mp3s, iPods, P2P, torrents, YouTube, webcasts, and TiVo, people still listen to terrestrial radio.

Maybe these people are trapped in cars, or at offices, or maybe they just got one of those sweet Wild Wild West promotional radio headsets from Burger King last century and just can't get enough of it. Maybe (on a serious note...no really), they can't afford the digital knickknacks listed above, in which case we're dicks to poke fun at their radio-listening ways.

Anyhow, whatever their reasons for tuning in, chances are these people who listen to commercial radio are subjected to a whole lot of crap. Major label crap, in most cases, and maybe-- just maybe-- the disc jockey wasn't playing that Staind song every 15 minutes because he liked it. Maybe-- dun dun dun-- he was paid to play it!

That's the history of payola in a nutshell, and you're correct in your assessment that it sucks. Thankfully, legal-minded people have taken the crusade against payola to the courts, and in an uncharacteristic show of reason and integrity, the courts have sided against the money-grubbing corporate evil-doers.

According to The Hollywood Reporter yesterday, four radio giants-- Clear Channel Communications Inc., CBS Radio, Entercom Communications Corp. and Citadel Broadcasting Corp.-- have entered an agreement (a "consent decree", the article calls it) with the FCC in which they'll pay a $12.5 million settlement for payola-related wrongdoing.

Here's the exciting part for the casual radio listener: concomitant to the payola decree but not part of it, the radio giants have reached a second, private agreement with the American Association of Independent Music that will "set aside 8,400 half-hour blocks of time for independent music." That's nearly a half-year's worth of time for the indies, although we have no idea what happens after all those hours are used up.

As the Reporter explains, "The free airtime would be granted to companies not owned or controlled by Sony BMG Music Entertainment, Warner Music Group, Universal Music Group and EMI Group; do not have a market share larger than 5%; and are represented as independent through Nielsen SoundScan."

Now of course we're skeptical, especially since the deal's unofficial, and also since a lot of independent music really blows (trust us, we've got promo bins full of it). In spite of this, it's exciting to see some waves being made, and we hope the radio giants make good on their word. Or else, you know, we'll completely ignore them even more.

While under scrutiny (not to mention illegal) since the 1950s, payola became a huge topic in summer 2005 following then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's much-publicized investigation, which landed Sony BMG, and later Warner Bros. in the doghouse.

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:27 PM   #2
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who cares.

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:11 PM   #3
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who cares about payola
hearing these songs on the radio isnt forcing people to make all the albums go multi-platinum

 
Old 03-07-2007, 02:31 PM   #4
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this is really indie, you guyss
also what is payola? like child porn or something?

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:22 PM   #5
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who cares about payola
hearing these songs on the radio isnt forcing people to make all the albums go multi-platinum
I wouldn't say forcing but limiting play on the radio is also limiting choices at the record store.

Still even if this agreement goes it just means the MCR and Fall Out Boy clones who haven't been signed to a major will get more radioplay so I don't really care about this either. This in no way means we're gonna start hearing Xiu Xiu bumping on the radio

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:03 PM   #6
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that is correct. it's not like this didn't happen in the past

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:10 PM   #7
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listen, obviously the world as we know it will change overnight.....................however i think this a good thing for indie...and it can only get better from here.

progress people, progress....this would have never happened 10 years ago.

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Old 03-07-2007, 09:13 PM   #8
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Davin, how much Corgan cum do you currently have in your belly?

 
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:11 PM   #9
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snake -- why so quick to jump to conclusions man? why so hasty? lets at least wait until tomorrow and see if anything happens...




travis -- NONE. its all in your asshole, slowly dripping out and running down your legs...forming puddles at your feet. maybe you should consider the consequences of stretching yourself out the next time you decide to shove anal beads the size of tennis balls up your ass.

oh wait, nevermind...its probably just stretched out from your head being WAY up there!

 
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:18 AM   #10
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listen, obviously the world as we know it will change overnight.....................however i think this a good thing for indie...and it can only get better from here.

progress people, progress....this would have never happened 10 years ago.
wow davin you're a complete dumbtard

i just discovered it for myself. kind of a special moment for me as a netphorian.

 
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:27 PM   #11
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thats funny, cuz i've known your a complete shit-for-brains for probably 3 years now.

 
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:57 AM   #12
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man that's like the first thing i've ever said to you, pumpkins boy.

 
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:43 AM   #13
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This in no way means we're gonna start hearing Xiu Xiu bumping on the radio
thank God.

 
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:47 PM   #14
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thank God.
amen

 
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:48 PM   #15
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man that's like the first thing i've ever said to you, pumpkins boy.
haha, sorry...just being defensive. afterall, i haven't said anything to you before either.

 
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:14 AM   #16
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listen, obviously the world as we know it will change overnight.....................however i think this a good thing for indie...and it can only get better from here.

progress people, progress....this would have never happened 10 years ago.
man, shut up

 
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:20 PM   #17
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man, shut up
your location. it's called the pirate.

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:53 PM   #18
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http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=1564417

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some of you might find the opinions in this Harmony Central thread noteworthy.

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:02 PM   #19
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davin you only listen to the most generic rock bullshit anyway so what are you going to get out of this

nobody with access to the internet should care about the radio anyway

 
Old 03-12-2007, 08:04 PM   #20
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progress people, progress...

lol

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:05 PM   #21
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to be clear, are you urging us to progress, or are you explaining to us that you see this developmenet as some progress?

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:08 PM   #22
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is it just me today, or does this fucking thread have no point at all?

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:38 PM   #23
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to be clear, are you urging us to progress, or are you explaining to us that you see this developmenet as some progress?
the 2nd one.

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:43 PM   #24
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thx 4 answering

 
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:51 PM   #25
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Yeah, Indie Rock is my favorite genre of songs, right after christian musics.

 
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:57 AM   #26
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:58 AM   #27
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davin you only listen to the most generic rock bullshit anyway so what are you going to get out of this

nobody with access to the internet should care about the radio anyway
you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. i'm going to see more indie bands in the next 5 days than you will see your whole life.

fucking moron.

 
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:59 AM   #28
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is it just me today, or does this fucking thread have no point at all?
then why are you reading/posting in it?

 
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:33 PM   #29
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Remember the anti-piracy adverts starring multi-millionares saying you're taking their livelyhood.

Good times.

 
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Old 03-13-2007, 03:30 PM   #30
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Remember the anti-piracy adverts starring multi-millionares saying you're taking their livelyhood.

Good times.
yea, that was funny. and Flea's open letter to fans for downloading the new RHCP double-disc was even funnier!

 
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