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Old 01-22-2008, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default #1 Overrated Album of 2007: The Smashing Pumpkins - Zeitgeist

Just thought y'all would like to know...

According to the new Under the Radar magazine I just got in my mailbox, Zeitgeist is the most overrated album of 2007, and here's what they had to say about it:

An insult and a farce in every way - from Billy Corgan's decision to "reunite" the band with only two of the original four members to the multiple album formats sold only at specific outlets - Zeitgeist is a pathetic attempt to revive a moribund career with flat riffs and self-important songwriting. The new costumes are pretty cool, though.
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In case you're wondering, the rest of the Top 10 Overrated Albums of 2007 are:

2. Wilco - Sky Blue Sky
3. Arctic Monkeys - Favourite Worst Nightmare
4. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
5. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Some Loud Thunder
6. Dan Deacon - Spiderman of the Rings
7. Kings of Leon - Because of The Times
8. The View - Hats Off to the Buskers
9. No Age - Weirdo Rippers
10. The Field - From Here We Go Sublime

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:55 PM   #2
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so they liked it?


no really, was it overrated? who's overrated it? I've mostly just seen it torn down all over the place.

also, i like how all the indie snobs (and most of netphoria) like to give them so much grief about reuniting with only two original members. As if countless bands hadn't done the same with little fanfare. Face it, billy's the guy journalists love to hate.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:58 PM   #3
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I agree with the costumes though, they are bad ass.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:59 PM   #4
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there is no way Spiderman of the Rings should be on that list

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:04 PM   #5
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no one overrated this album. still though i guess any compliment on zeitgeist could qualify as overrated.

i agree with no age and the field though.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:12 PM   #6
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As if countless bands hadn't done the same with little fanfare. Face it, billy's the guy journalists love to hate.
countless bands haven't taken out full-page ads on the day their solo album comes out and made such a big fucking deal about it

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:34 PM   #7
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my new hypothesis

zeitgeist was an ironic statement. the album was only meant to be as good as the musical climate it was a part of. the musical zeitgeist is shit, therefore the album should be shit. well, almost shit.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:45 PM   #8
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my new hypothesis

zeitgeist was an ironic statement. the album was only meant to be as good as the musical climate it was a part of. the musical zeitgeist is shit, therefore the album should be shit. well, almost shit.
stop posting

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:53 PM   #9
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indie snobs
oh god

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:00 PM   #10
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my new hypothesis

zeitgeist was an ironic statement. the album was only meant to be as good as the musical climate it was a part of. the musical zeitgeist is shit, therefore the album should be shit. well, almost shit.
This is what I'm going to start telling non-pumpkins fans and pumpkins fans alike. Many thanks for the "out".

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:09 PM   #11
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indie snobs
I thought of this when you brought up the phrase "indie snobs" God, I love the best of craigslist.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:32 PM   #12
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funny, you can take that entire list, remove the records, rename it 'most over rated bands of 2007' and keep the list pretty much intact

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:48 PM   #13
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oh god
don't give me that 'oh god' crap. you and i both know they exist, and they despise corgan (when they bother to give him a second thought). I've known plenty of them.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:49 PM   #14
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I thought of this when you brought up the phrase "indie snobs" God, I love the best of craigslist.
lol.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:49 PM   #15
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don't give me that 'oh god' crap. you and i both know they exist, and they despise corgan (when they bother to give him a second thought). I've known plenty of them.
Don't you have anything new to post, we've heard this all before.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:49 PM   #16
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countless bands haven't taken out full-page ads on the day their solo album comes out and made such a big fucking deal about it
touché

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:50 PM   #17
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Don't you have anything new to post, we've heard this all before.
ironic, coming from you.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:51 PM   #18
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Yeah, you've said that before. Say something new.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:51 PM   #19
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4. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
i hate the white stripes

 
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??? this makes no sense. bands don't make solo albums.
Leave the discussion idiot.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:01 PM   #21
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The Smashing Pumpkins are on the right track.

Write a not-so-good album cuz you're a "new" ('reunited') band. Write a second album that is pretty good and gets some attention now that you've got your sound, and then do a third album that floors everyone in the media.

It's a vicious cycle.




Or they could fail miserably at this whole Smashing Pumpkins thing.


A lot of American Gothic sounded like a Zwan clone. This, I think, is actually a good thing, soundwise.






But yeah, with all the secrets and quiet at the beginning, yet unimaginable amounts of hype, this album was a sort of let down. I still like it, but it didn't live up to the expectations they built for it.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:15 PM   #22
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But yeah, with all the secrets and quiet at the beginning, yet unimaginable amounts of hype, this album was a sort of let down. I still like it, but it didn't live up to the expectations they built for it.

i can get behind this.
i don't think it was "overrated" because i don't think anyone said anything good about it to begin with. but i do think it was an overall disappointment, even though i don't hate it or anything.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:23 PM   #23
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Just thought y'all would like to know...

According to the new Under the Radar magazine I just got in my mailbox, Zeitgeist is the most overrated album of 2007, and here's what they had to say about it:

An insult and a farce in every way - from Billy Corgan's decision to "reunite" the band with only two of the original four members to the multiple album formats sold only at specific outlets - Zeitgeist is a pathetic attempt to revive a moribund career with flat riffs and self-important songwriting. The new costumes are pretty cool, though.
By Matt Fink


In case you're wondering, the rest of the Top 10 Overrated Albums of 2007 are:

2. Wilco - Sky Blue Sky
3. Arctic Monkeys - Favourite Worst Nightmare
4. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
5. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Some Loud Thunder
6. Dan Deacon - Spiderman of the Rings
7. Kings of Leon - Because of The Times
8. The View - Hats Off to the Buskers
9. No Age - Weirdo Rippers
10. The Field - From Here We Go Sublime

Over-rated? I didn't see too many publications raving about Zeitgeist.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:33 PM   #24
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I agree, Zeitgeist didn't really get rave reviews

and their costumes are horrible

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:35 PM   #25
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overrated? Not sure i would agree with that.

over hyped, i could side with that idea..

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:40 PM   #26
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overrated? Not sure i would agree with that.

over hyped, i could side with that idea..
over hyped; good call.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:49 PM   #27
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i think that "under the radar" is the number 2 under-rated magazine in the world.

it is what it is.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:52 PM   #28
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i adore zeitgeist.

still.

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:14 PM   #29
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stop adoring things

 
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:18 PM   #30
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no one liked zeitgeist how can it be overrated?

 
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