Doomsday Clock (alternate vocal mix)

[FoolofaTook]

[Joey Goldberg]

that's not even the phrase I used, you're reaching

[Joey Goldberg]

& this is coming from a man who just had a full-fledged conversation with himself in a fellow thread!

[FoolofaTook]

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by Reyngel

When that video first came out, I thought the “What’s left? Bananas” part was so, so funny.

I’m surprised I still find it to be hilarious.

I haven't even watched more than 30 seconds of the video until now

that bit made me lol

[eviltimeban]

I finally got around to doing this. I used an online tool called Moises to separate the vocals and the band, then used Cubase to balance the mix. I added a chorus effect and a few different reverbs to try and give the vocals a bit more presence, and EQed them a little.

They are pretty low in the mix - if I had each vocal track I could've done more with the backing vocals but as it is they were all taken out as one track. I could've also "thickened" the lead vocal without it making the backing vocals jump out too much.

Here's the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mD...I84a5sz5WZe2Ee

Playing this and then the original straight after is pretty insane. He's mixed *with* the band here, instead of being on top of it.

[Joey Goldberg]

kinda sounds like a Machina 2 cut w/ that approach

[Joey Goldberg]

god i love JImbo's drums on this album

& Machina 2, for that matter!

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

kinda sounds like a Machina 2 cut w/ that approach

Nicely put, it does.

[Ram27]

fucking amazing

it's really a badass track and the drum and guitar sound is great when you're not hearing corgan croon over the top

[eviltimeban]

I'm working on Marchin' On now. There's a way I can separate out it out to four stems so I'll see what I can do with it. I did a version of it like Doomsday which was fine but I'd like to see if I can do it better.

[trev]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

He's mixed *with* the band here, instead of being on top of it.

fuck, great job! sounds so much better.

keen to hear any more that you do with this style of vocal mix.

[Joey Goldberg]

honestly, i don't really feel it helped the song much. nothing to do with how you mixed the vocal stem back in or whatever, just the way Bill sings is so low-wattage here I almost feel it has to be loud just so you can understand even half of what he's actually singing - not that you always need to actually understand the words coming out of an artist's mouth to enjoy the track (Cocteau Twins, anyone?) but it's not like Bill's singing during this era was exactly "textural" either

[VoxUpDoc]

This is a much better mix and I need to listen to it on better speakers but as Joey points out, the verse lyrics are so lethargic they kind of disappear here, it goes to show it isn’t just a vocal mix but vocal delivery that is off.

However the chorus is much improved, really like what you did.

Now please do this for the rest of ZG and every SP song put out since.

[Shallowed]

this sort of practice isn't so much polishing a turd, as it is separating a turd's constituent parts, seasoning and recooking them, eating it, and then presenting the resulting turd

[Shallowed]

sorry that post probabyl belongs in the other thread

[theslipstream]

Awesome effort here. The reverb's just a bit overdone in parts but the overall sound is light years better, even on my crappy laptop speakers.

If you're up for a similar challenge, anything off Shiny would be a good candidate.

Thanks for putting this out there!

[VoxUpDoc]

Eviltimeban - if you have the vocal track isolated, could you autotune Bill when he goes off on racecar noises and fails to hit the high notes, but also to just fuck with his voice completely.

We need a robot vox mix. It could honestly energize the song and I *know* Bill would really appreciate it.

[brothahi4L]

Cool that a guy Tries to alter the mix etc..

Nonetheless a shitty Songs stand a shitty Song.

Zeigeist is carp.... with vor without News mix vor whatever

Samen with scheissi 1...... 2 good Songs... tue erst is alienated

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by brothahi4L

Cool that a guy Tries to alter the mix etc..

Nonetheless a shitty Songs stand a shitty Song.

Zeigeist is carp.... with vor without News mix vor whatever

Samen with scheissi 1...... 2 good Songs... tue erst is alienated

ZEIGEIST IS CARP

[trev]

probably would have been a better album cover to be honest

[LaBelle]

With that cover i'd add it to as many spotify playlists as humanly possible.

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

When u need an 8x11 to handle all the super important identifying info about yourself, it’s time to rethink the use of lanyards. Maybe a t shirt with all those stats/bios would be easier on the eyes/neck

[Skradgee]

Oh yes, I hear what was done here

Very sound focused

This is why remasters mix