could we ever come up with a consensus on the best SP song? - Page 2

topleybird · 09-24-2019, 06:04 PM

The subtext of every single thread on Netphoria, ever, is "what is the best The Smashing Pumpkins song"

If we settled that question, the board would implode so forcefully that the shockwave would ripple back through time and cause this place to have never existed at all

My vote is Mayo

FoolofaTook · 09-24-2019, 07:37 PM

Rocket > Hummer/Mayo/Soma

DEEL WID IT

run2pee · 09-24-2019, 08:05 PM

Mayo is my personal fave

Best song by corgan though is probably, objectively speaking, widow wake my mind

No other artist could have achieved such a thoroughly offensive aural atrocity. It’s Pure Art

Modern90's · 09-24-2019, 08:19 PM

so it seems like mayo or hummer or porcelina at this point

fuzzyroes · 09-24-2019, 09:45 PM

Not understanding all the love for Mayo. For me it's gotta be Soma or Geek USA

Slurpee · 09-25-2019, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram27

but the answer is ruby, live spring 1996, with the extended outro

Correct.

But the consensus always ends up being Soma.

aztec litany service · 10-14-2019, 11:20 PM

Identify

Shallowed · 10-15-2019, 01:09 AM

Holy shit, it's aztec

enthusaroo · 10-15-2019, 06:39 AM

Identity is the best song by the Pumpkins. It's better than Mayonnaise or One and Two.

Reyngel · 10-15-2019, 11:46 PM

I'd probably consider 3 criteria of quality and timelessness:

1. Sound
2. Lyrics
3. If it can be listened to anytime, regardless of one's mood

Songs like Soma, Ruby, Porcelina and For Martha are certainly top-tier, but I don't know if they meet the 3rd criteria. I feel like I have to be in kind of a down mood to want to listen to them.

For me, then, that leaves the following 3:

-Mayonaise
-Geek USA
-Disarm

And Disarm only barely meets the 3rd criteria for me. It's a sad song, but for whatever reason, it's just so good, I can listen to it anytime, anywhere.

Geek USA has always been the song I've thought was the band's best ever. The riff is incredible, the dynamic changes are hyper creative, and that ending slow-jam "She really loves to break" part is the perfect exclamation point.

But if I were to choose which song is universally the best, meaning, it transcends even what I think, I'd have to say Mayonaise. It's got the classic, defining Pumpkins creamy fuzz sound, great emotional vocals, lyrics that anyone can relate to and identify with, a simple yet perfectly structured solo, and I also love that Billy and James wrote it together.

So my vote: Mayonaise.

trev · 10-16-2019, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reyngel

Songs like Soma, Ruby, Porcelina and For Martha are certainly top-tier, but I don't know if they meet the 3rd criteria. I feel like I have to be in kind of a down mood to want to listen to them.

But if I were to choose which song is universally the best, meaning, it transcends even what I think, I'd have to say Mayonaise. It's got the classic, defining Pumpkins creamy fuzz sound, great emotional vocals, lyrics that anyone can relate to and identify with, a simple yet perfectly structured solo, and I also love that Billy and James wrote it together.

So my vote: Mayonaise.

completely agree on all this

aztec litany service · 01:38 AM

Yeah I still exist, sort of. There will never be a consensus on this and i wasn’t serious about identify (though I do think it’s one of his best) but yeah ruby soma porcelina mayo always get mentioned. My friend put on mcis the other day and the ones that got to me the most were jellybelly, hinw, 33, and ruby. I like medellia and marquis a lot. Obscured, Glynis... I couldn’t pick one. Rocket was the first one I really loved and that made me want to buy their album... blah blah

enthusaroo · 10-16-2019, 02:55 AM

Identify > Spiteface

smashingjj · 10-16-2019, 05:47 AM

Alienation

FoolofaTook · 10-16-2019, 06:34 AM

topleybird · 10-16-2019, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enthusaroo

Identify > Spiteface

Too far, motherfucker

Mals Marola · 10-16-2019, 10:59 AM

Identify > I Tend to Cry

houseofglass11 · 10-16-2019, 02:10 PM

The 10 best SP songs, not open for debate:

Mayonaise
Hummer
Soma
Geek USA
Drown
Starla
Obscured
Whir
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Stand Inside Your Love

aztec litany service · 10-16-2019, 04:20 PM

Whir should’ve got airplay. Great song

FoolofaTook · 10-16-2019, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

The 10 best SP songs, not open for debate:

Mayonaise
Hummer
Soma
Geek USA
Drown
Starla
Obscured
Whir
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Stand Inside Your Love

geek over rocket u trippin bro

Mals Marola · 10-16-2019, 04:46 PM

a) he never specified whether or not it was in order
b) Geek is for sure better than Rocket you fuckin' Campbellspawn

houseofglass11 · 10-16-2019, 05:07 PM

not in order and ye, geek > rocket, all day long.

Shallowed · 10-16-2019, 05:22 PM

Rocket isn't even on the list

Shallowed · 10-16-2019, 05:23 PM

And it fuckin' well should be

houseofglass11 · 10-16-2019, 05:55 PM

No. It's a good song but not top 10 worthy.

Shallowed · 10-16-2019, 06:14 PM

FoolofaTook · 10-16-2019, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

not in order and ye, geek > rocket, all day long.

FoolofaTook · 10-16-2019, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

No. It's a good song but not top 10 worthy.

FranchisePunter · 10-16-2019, 09:13 PM

Whats the best live version of ruby? The MSG one from September 96 is pretty good imo.

Mals Marola · 10-17-2019, 12:53 AM

all of them

10-16-2019, 01:34 AM	#42
aztec litany service Apocalyptic Poster Location: cedar park, tx Posts: 1,535	Yeah I still exist, sort of. There will never be a consensus on this and i wasn’t serious about identify (though I do think it’s one of his best) but yeah ruby soma porcelina mayo always get mentioned. My friend put on mcis the other day and the ones that got to me the most were jellybelly, hinw, 33, and ruby. I like medellia and marquis a lot. Obscured, Glynis... I couldn’t pick one. Rocket was the first one I really loved and that made me want to buy their album... blah blah Last edited by aztec litany service : 10-16-2019 at 01:38 AM. Reason: Mayo

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topleybird Janis Jopleybird Location: Let me see you do the booty hop. And now make the booty stop. Now drop, and do the booty wop. Posts: 6,569	The subtext of every single thread on Netphoria, ever, is "what is the best The Smashing Pumpkins song" If we settled that question, the board would implode so forcefully that the shockwave would ripple back through time and cause this place to have never existed at all My vote is Mayo

09-24-2019, 07:37 PM	#32
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	Rocket > Hummer/Mayo/Soma DEEL WID IT

09-24-2019, 08:05 PM	#33
run2pee Minion of Satan Location: An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom Posts: 7,746	Mayo is my personal fave Best song by corgan though is probably, objectively speaking, widow wake my mind No other artist could have achieved such a thoroughly offensive aural atrocity. It’s Pure Art

09-24-2019, 08:19 PM	#34
Modern90's Demi-God Location: The Past, Future, and Present Posts: 388	so it seems like mayo or hummer or porcelina at this point

09-24-2019, 09:45 PM	#35
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Not understanding all the love for Mayo. For me it's gotta be Soma or Geek USA

10-14-2019, 11:20 PM	#37
aztec litany service Apocalyptic Poster Location: cedar park, tx Posts: 1,535	Identify

10-15-2019, 01:09 AM	#38
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	Holy shit, it's aztec

10-15-2019, 06:39 AM	#39
enthusaroo Apocalyptic Poster Location: ameriKKKa Posts: 2,747	Identity is the best song by the Pumpkins. It's better than Mayonnaise or One and Two.

10-15-2019, 11:46 PM	#40
Reyngel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Seattle Posts: 3,682	I'd probably consider 3 criteria of quality and timelessness: 1. Sound 2. Lyrics 3. If it can be listened to anytime, regardless of one's mood Songs like Soma, Ruby, Porcelina and For Martha are certainly top-tier, but I don't know if they meet the 3rd criteria. I feel like I have to be in kind of a down mood to want to listen to them. For me, then, that leaves the following 3: -Mayonaise -Geek USA -Disarm And Disarm only barely meets the 3rd criteria for me. It's a sad song, but for whatever reason, it's just so good, I can listen to it anytime, anywhere. Geek USA has always been the song I've thought was the band's best ever. The riff is incredible, the dynamic changes are hyper creative, and that ending slow-jam "She really loves to break" part is the perfect exclamation point. But if I were to choose which song is universally the best, meaning, it transcends even what I think, I'd have to say Mayonaise. It's got the classic, defining Pumpkins creamy fuzz sound, great emotional vocals, lyrics that anyone can relate to and identify with, a simple yet perfectly structured solo, and I also love that Billy and James wrote it together. So my vote: Mayonaise.

10-16-2019, 02:55 AM	#43
enthusaroo Apocalyptic Poster Location: ameriKKKa Posts: 2,747	Identify > Spiteface

10-16-2019, 05:47 AM	#44
smashingjj real estate cowboy Location: if Monsanto and Purdue Pharma had a baby Posts: 36,902	Alienation

10-16-2019, 06:34 AM	#45
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218

10-16-2019, 10:59 AM	#47
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	Identify > I Tend to Cry

10-16-2019, 02:10 PM	#48
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,686	The 10 best SP songs, not open for debate: Mayonaise Hummer Soma Geek USA Drown Starla Obscured Whir Thru the Eyes of Ruby Stand Inside Your Love

10-16-2019, 04:20 PM	#49
aztec litany service Apocalyptic Poster Location: cedar park, tx Posts: 1,535	Whir should’ve got airplay. Great song

10-16-2019, 04:46 PM	#51
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	a) he never specified whether or not it was in order b) Geek is for sure better than Rocket you fuckin' Campbellspawn

10-16-2019, 05:07 PM	#52
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,686	not in order and ye, geek > rocket, all day long.

10-16-2019, 05:22 PM	#53
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	Rocket isn't even on the list

10-16-2019, 05:23 PM	#54
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	And it fuckin' well should be

10-16-2019, 05:55 PM	#55
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,686	No. It's a good song but not top 10 worthy.

10-16-2019, 06:14 PM	#56
Shallowed Braindead Posts: 18,608	ok

10-16-2019, 09:13 PM	#59
FranchisePunter Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 21	Whats the best live version of ruby? The MSG one from September 96 is pretty good imo.

10-17-2019, 12:53 AM	#60
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	all of them