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Old 04-06-2014, 09:30 AM   #31
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It says a lot about how twisted society is. The concept of aliens is less believable to many than the concept of angels.
why is it surprising? people are predisposed to tribalism and spirituality. teach kids that fairy tales are real and they grow up believing it

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:55 AM   #32
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Typical Beck.

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:12 AM   #33
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that convo between rider and catherine wheel was maybe the worst thing i've ever read

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 12:56 PM   #34
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:01 PM   #35
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this is the best quality SP message board on the internet

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:45 PM   #36
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It's interesting how believing in aliens isn't accepted by society as a normal way of thinking but believing in angels is.
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48% believe in UFOs.
you mean believe that UFOs are aliens? a ufo is anything that flies and cannot be identified

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Not all Christians believe in Angels.

You are greatly twisting things to fit your misguided statements about religion and UFOs.

Just as many people roll their eyes when Carlos Santana starts babbling about angels visiting him and giving him songs as people do when someone mentions aliens.

The issue is more about that it's considered socially unacceptable to criticize religion and it's perfectly acceptable to mock people who believe in UFOs.

I believe in neither and in general think most people are loony who do believe in either. I'm more likely to confront and debate the UFO nut though just because it's more socially acceptable. This has nothing at to do with how I perceive the two though.
rider what the hell are any of your posts dude. If a Christian does not believe in angels that "Christian" is operating on some other text than the New Testament

also your view on angels vs. aliens is idiotic, especially since you are coming from a skeptic's perspective. life elsewhere in the universe is very plausible. the concept of spiritual watcher warriors is ridiculous. also can you just not be such a dick for no reason? thanks

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:52 PM   #37
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i'm eccentric

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:52 PM   #38
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several of my friends have said so

 
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:46 PM   #39
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48% believe in UFOs.

There is one survey out there from a few years ago that get's quoted as 1 in 4 believe in angels, but that was one survey, others from the same time frame show numbers between 50%-60%.

The numbers vary widely over time. UFOs are at a low point right now.
Exactly. People will believe fuckin anything. If Men In Black 4 came out tomorrow, that percentage would double

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:41 AM   #40
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angels are aliens

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:05 PM   #41
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Can we get back on topic here? I need to know what song TOC wrote.

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:28 PM   #42
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I worked with a producer who was friends with Beck and just about everybody else in the biz. Said producer was in a huge hospital debt as he fell ill while working with us. He kept telling us he was showing some songs of ours around to mainly movie people. Days later a bandmate of mine was bed stricken in a hospital, so I went from working in a A-list studio in Santa Monica to visiting hospitals for days and weeks. Bandmate never really comes all the way back into band mode.

A year later, I visit Beck's site because I liked a song he recently published. Instead the first song on the site is one that has a title almost exactly like the one I wrote and showed to the producer guy. It's a different genre but similar in approach and lyric.

I initially think, "wow. what a coincidence".

My bandmates each looked at me like some newbie dumbass who doesn't realized he just got reamed. "Duhhh...Bob showed it to him." "Welcome to showbiz", they say. To be fair, within the band at the time, I was the only who thought it could be a coincidence. How ironic is that?

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:54 PM   #43
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Upload your song, you got nothing to lose.

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:05 PM   #44
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My bandmates each looked at me like some newbie dumbass who doesn't realized he just got reamed. "Duhhh...Bob showed it to him." "Welcome to showbiz", they say. To be fair, within the band at the time, I was the only who thought it could be a coincidence. How ironic is that?
do the other patients also think they're in a band with you?

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Old 04-07-2014, 08:41 PM   #45
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its more likely Billy gave it to him after he hacked you

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:49 PM   #46
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why does everybody from california know a producer who dicked them over

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:58 PM   #47
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because reasons

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:02 PM   #48
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all california refugees at work are like.. hey man.. maybe you heard of a little somebody called uncle cracker. yeah well we were making mad bank touring. but then there was a producer named bob..

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:32 PM   #49
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Can we get back on topic here? I need to know what song TOC wrote.


I respect the hell out of Beck. I would just as well like to think it was a similar wavelength at the time because I'd rather not believe the alternative. My jaded muso friends really don't think so however, and they're prolly right. doesn't really matter anymore but since I opened up my big mouth...


If your a TROO Beck fan...you ought to know his song title at least from this:



https://soundcloud.com/ronnie-eagle/ticking-time-bomb

 
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Old 04-07-2014, 10:55 PM   #50
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all california refugees at work are like.. hey man.. maybe you heard of a little somebody called uncle cracker. yeah well we were making mad bank touring. but then there was a producer named bob..


who broke into the biz drumming for Frank Sinatra and Bruce Springsteen. Became a prominent session player back in the day and swerved into a producing svengali and developed a bunch of bands including Motley Crue and Metallica. From Clapton to Sting to Cyndi Lauper and Kelly Clarkson, he's produced and forgotten more music than most muso's would ever play. He has well over a hundred platinum records to his name.

and we as a band imploded on our own...Bob had nothing to do with that.

 
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:48 AM   #51
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It's official, TOC is paranoid schizo.

 
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:51 AM   #52
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lol he like totally stole your song

 
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:55 AM   #53
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here's three more artists who ripped off your song:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL2wGYCINwY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkgNsE9Uhzc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKHAopx7D0

it's a different genre, but similar in approach and lyric. this can't be a coincidence. if i were you, i'd have a word with that producer guy.

 
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all california refugees at work are like.. hey man.. maybe you heard of a little somebody called uncle cracker. yeah well we were making mad bank touring. but then there was a producer named bob..
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it's this song, for sure


 
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:10 PM   #56
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TOC, is this the Beck song you think is yours?

 
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:21 PM   #57
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here's three more artists who ripped off your song:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL2wGYCINwY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkgNsE9Uhzc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKHAopx7D0

it's a different genre, but similar in approach and lyric. this can't be a coincidence. if i were you, i'd have a word with that producer guy.



I'm basically with you on your take there...I know Bob knew Beck, don't know if he knew these artist.

 
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it's this song, for sure



nope, his song is called Timebomb. released a year after I met the producer guy. That dangling fact does give me pause. I wouldn't think Beck needs any help however...

 
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Old 04-08-2014, 04:27 PM   #59
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Wait a guy who has a similar-titled song but it isn't the same genre or type ... is stealing a song?

You're better at copy+pasting conspiracy stories.

 
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