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Old 12-25-2001, 03:28 AM   #61
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Quote:
Originally posted by Halteh:
dude!! unknown rig - ana?>cdr, he -should- hoard that. I heard a rumour that Fresko's dropping boards for the ana? version.

I actually don't have any boards or any rare shit. My bootlist is nothing more than a wonderful lie.

Put dat in yo pipe and sm0ke it!

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Old 12-25-2001, 03:33 AM   #62
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Such inspired wisdomw from all in this thread

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Old 12-25-2001, 08:13 AM   #63
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I will only accept trades of the finest dutch cheeses. Gouda is preferred.
Guess where i come from. Still interested http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/biggrin.gif?


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Old 12-25-2001, 09:20 AM   #64
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Originally posted by Slurpee:
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not, so I'm hoarding it regardless. I will only accept trades of the finest dutch cheeses. Gouda is preferred.
You rang?

 
Old 12-25-2001, 09:38 AM   #65
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is a video of 8/13/93 leet?

i'll trade a copy of 10/23/95 and my Siamese Dream from columbia house for it!

 
Old 02-13-2002, 02:43 AM   #66
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To both resurrect this thread and also offer a possible answer to a question earlier on in the discussion, there is probably a good reason why the Fruit Bat Salad tapes (I believe Jason brought this up) cut between shows, especially hearing that they are "with permission" videos. It really sucks for traders, but makes complete sense editing-wise.

I'm going to guess that the taper only had one camera; of course, unlike audio taping, it is visually anathema to only have one angle. So you have a clear problem - you can move (if you aren't hard wired into anywhere) and get really bouncy, weird shots and possibly shitty audio as well, or you keep (generally) to one area.

But people don't want just one angle (well, traders probably don't care...) so the videos look and sound like that because they were edited to have a higher visual appeal (although, considering the limited number of copies this is a stupid thing to do). But there's only one angle per show - so you edit between the two. Maybe they could've used a continuous recording between the two and edited it creatively to avoid mis-syncs...but then it would only screw up lineages further.

I mean, consider masterpieces of SP editing, like Musique Plus or DVD Fuck You; part of the reason they look so great is because they have the liberty of multiple cameras at the same show, so all they have to do is sync the cameras - since they all recorded the same show, it'll work fine.

I'm actually going to be videotaping the Death and Dismemberment tour in March for a few weeks and this issue really concerns me b/c I may or may not have a second camera - I own one and I'm going to try to borrow one from my school for my girlfriend to use. In any case, I'm going to have to think of some creative ideas in the meantime for camerawork and editing so as to avoid the problem.

Now, all that being said, there is some comfort in the fact that the Fruit Bat Salad angles had to have each come from separate shows that exist on their masters (hopefully)in their entirety, one day to be uncovered. And come to think of it, the idea of having 20+ angles uncut on the Metro DVD, while probably not feasible, blows my mind.

I'll shut up now.

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Old 02-13-2002, 03:51 AM   #67
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Originally posted by sarmatianus:
Now, all that being said, there is some comfort in the fact that the Fruit Bat Salad angles had to have each come from separate shows that exist on their masters (hopefully)in their entirety, one day to be uncovered.
Maybe that's where the circulating bootleg of 6/9/92 came from? So many people list it as ANA(?)->CDR, but spfc only lists a video source. That would lead me to believe that maybe it has been VID sourced all along... a lot of people list it as VID sourced (probably because of the spfc thing). The sound quality of a video is similar to a cassette, so nobody can really tell anyway. I'm talking about the full 6/9/92 video (not FBS) that "nobody" has.

I don't know. It's been available for so long, I guess it's sorta hard to tell. I just did a quick search on AMSP, and found that people had 6/9/92 on cassette as far back as August of 1996. I like 6/9, so I've been looking for 6/10 or 6/11 on tape or CDR, without much luck yet. I found one person who has 6/11 on cassette (hi, if you're reading this http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif) but her tapes are at home and she's up at college... and she's not into copying tapes anyway, etc. etc. Actually I'm the exact same way if anybody ever asked for a copy of one of my tapes. A quick AMSP search for it doesn't show much, except that 6/10 is in the "NP" of Jason Briggeman back on 1/20/98.

Whoa, I really started to drift off topic there. Anyway, you're probably right about the whole multiple angle thing. Thanks for reviving an interesting topic that I had forgotten about. Does anybody think this should be archived once it falls again?

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Old 02-13-2002, 04:00 AM   #68
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It's also worth noting (although I don't have a copy, so I wouldn't know) that it's certainly possible that 6/9 does have ANA in its lineage - ANA from the video. I don't exactly know what that would sound like quality-wise (or if it would even be listenable), but again, I don't really have the show to reference to begin with.

And also, if anyone has any ideas for my dilemma for the Death and Dismemberment tour, please do send along an e-mail to sarmatianus@yahoo.com

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