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Old 05-04-2020, 09:50 PM   #1
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Red face GATMOG Dump

I recently pulled out an OLD hard drive and found a bunch of GATMOG stuff that I'd kept, for some reason. (Thanks to AveryLoren for recommending the IDE to USB adapter.)

I assume there won't be too many people interested but nevertheless, here ya go.


 
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Old 05-04-2020, 10:24 PM   #2
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ive tried to ask billy 3 times about black wings over america in his instagram q&as to no avail.

i've got one more variant on phrasing i'll try next time and after that i give up

 
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Old 05-04-2020, 10:26 PM   #3
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ah this is the one i remembered

http://ramdust.com/gatmog/Images/bwoa2.jpg



never saw this one before:

http://ramdust.com/gatmog/Images/bwotw.jpg

 
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Old 05-04-2020, 11:00 PM   #4
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what are you trying to ask him?

 
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Old 05-04-2020, 11:26 PM   #5
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oh shit someone just asked him tonight and he anwered.

they asked "will the machina reissue cover what black wings over america would have been?"

and he said

yes




i was basically asking.. what was it? was it meant to be a tour name? or something else?

 
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Old 05-04-2020, 11:27 PM   #6
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oh shit someone just asked him tonight and he anwered.

they asked "will the machina reissue cover what black wings over america would have been?"

and he said

yes




i was basically asking.. what was it? was it meant to be a tour name? or something else?
Ha I just saw that question and had no clue what it was. Googled it and it led me to an archive message. Then I see its on the front page of SP discussion.

 
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Old 05-05-2020, 05:38 AM   #7
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This is creeping me out Ram!

I found a fancy Black Wing pencil today and thought "Black Wings Over America lol" ...and then I saw this thread...and then I saw Billy's IG post. Wtf! SINE!

 
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Old 05-05-2020, 08:45 AM   #8
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Btw...I think black wings may be a reference to Glass being the black winged prometheus looking dude.

 
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Old 05-05-2020, 08:56 AM   #9
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you mean satan?

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:56 AM   #10
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i guess this is where my untr00 fan-ness really kicks in because i've never seen or heard of any of this before

where'd it all come from?

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:29 AM   #11
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The artwork at the top of the page is an illustration (by Gustav Dore) of Lucifer from Milton's Paradise Lost. Makes a change from all the William Blake references I guess.

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:58 AM   #12
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No actually it's Prometheus.

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:34 AM   #13
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buncha noobs.

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:40 AM   #14
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I remember playing with those flash 'eggs' at the time...and the SP radio, which seemed cool, but took forever to load on my shitty connection

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:41 AM   #15
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The GATMOG stuff was always fun to look at

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 03:35 PM   #16
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I had a conversation about what Black Wings was supposed to be a few weeks ago. Something is definitely stirring about. Thanks for putting this up and doing all the work. I am so drawn to Machina and GatMoG. I think I was 11 or 12. It was the perfect storm to capture my imagination. I had no idea then that the iconography was pulled from classical sources, etc. It was such a profound state of mind while exploring all of these things.

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 04:40 PM   #17
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lol

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 06:25 PM   #18
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"Black Wings Over America" is just referencing and/or lazily ripping off "Wings Over America".

"Wings Over America" was, of course, the seminal live album by Wings (the band The Beatles could've been).

I imagine it was going to be a live album by The Machines of God (that was the band right?).

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 07:18 PM   #19
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I imagine it was going to be a live album by The Machines of God (that was the band right?).
It has to be this. Billy stated that he wanted to record one last album after Machina as well. Recorded live on tour in the spirit of Rock On and Pale Scales. Anyone remember this?

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:35 PM   #20
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Wings (the band The Beatles could've been).

 
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:09 PM   #21
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incubator's brand of trolling is unique and it is subtle, but it's trolling nonetheless

at least that's what i tell myself so I can sleep at night

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:47 AM   #22
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Old 05-07-2020, 04:20 AM   #23
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Stop ruining threads you beautiful bastard.

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 05:26 AM   #24
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i used this for my desktop for years, i think: http://ramdust.com/gatmog/Images/glassdt_1600.jpg

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 07:24 AM   #25
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you think that's how billy views his chest?

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:12 AM   #26
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It has to be this. Billy stated that he wanted to record one last album after Machina as well. Recorded live on tour in the spirit of Rock On and Pale Scales. Anyone remember this?
Yes he wanted to do one more album recorded at the Metro right? It didn't happen because the rest of the band didn't share his enthusiasm for Wings.

 
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did the rest of the band really "not want it" or was it like when he shuts down an entire operation because 2 people vote no on Instagram

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:35 AM   #28
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"rest of the band didn't share his enthusiasm for Wings" = James nodded silently in agreement instead of whipping out his dick and shouting "William Patrick you are a goddamn genius!"

 
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you think that's how billy views his chest?
no, it would be a completely different perspective, like top-down

 
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Old 05-07-2020, 09:28 AM   #30
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i had to read that three times to get it but then i was like

 
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