Machina reissue a go - Page 72

Woody · 03-05-2020, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadaloo

It was written in Adore era tho

Hahaha dustrocks WRECKED.

If this thread is any indication Machina re-issue sales could break double figures. Bill is thinking about how many hours of wrestlers pal time he can buy with those $$$.

AveryLoren · 03-05-2020, 05:26 PM

I think Adore and MACHINA had a lot of crossover when it came to the writing.

slunken · 03-05-2020, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11

No Slow Dawn or Vanity? Sorry, can't hang with this playlist.

No knowledge of the machina chart? Sorry, you're an idiot.

Also, not sure this is well recognized or not among you idiots, but Billy already leaked the original intended Machina 2xCD tracklist.

houseofglass11 · 03-06-2020, 12:33 AM

I don't give a crap about some stupid Machina story or concept that you're nerding out about. Even Billy couldn't figure out what it was about. What matters is the quality of the songs and those are two that should not be left off of any Machina II playlist.

Woody · 03-06-2020, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11

I don't give a crap about some stupid Machina story or concept that you're nerding out about. Even Billy couldn't figure out what it was about. What matters is the quality of the songs and those are two that should not be left off of any Machina II playlist.

Truth.

Billy’s insistence the reissue will have the original, intended narrative flow is probably why the new tracklist will suck. A concert within an album is some dumb fucking shit.

enthusaroo · 03-06-2020, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11

I don't give a crap about some stupid Machina story or concept that you're nerding out about. Even Billy couldn't figure out what it was about. What matters is the quality of the songs and those are two that should not be left off of any Machina II playlist.

this

Forgotten Child · 03-06-2020, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slunken

No knowledge of the machina chart? Sorry, you're an idiot.

Also, not sure this is well recognized or not among you idiots, but Billy already leaked the original intended Machina 2xCD tracklist.

No he didn't

Woody · 03-06-2020, 02:49 AM

Slow Dawn, Vanity, Lucky 13 & Speed Kills should be on the album.

trev · 03-06-2020, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody

Slow Dawn, Vanity, Lucky 13 & Speed Kills should be on the album.

agree, those are the 4 strongest tracks from cr01-cr03

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody

Slow Dawn, Vanity, Saturnine & Speed Kills should be on the album.

You're welcome.

Woody · 03-06-2020, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

You're welcome.

Lucky 13 is a better rocker than TEG, Glass, Cash Car.

Saturnine is a good song, but the EP version doesn't do it justice.

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 08:20 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with your first statement.

Spacey saturnine is my jam tho.

topleybird · 03-06-2020, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

No he didn't

Uh this is readily searchable, my dude

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

I wholeheartedly agree with […] Space […] jam […]

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by topleybird

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook
I wholeheartedly agree with […] Space […] jam […]

Incredible. You would make a splendid proof-text theologian.

Joey Goldberg · 03-06-2020, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody

Lucky 13 is a better rocker than TEG, Glass, Cash Car.

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

I wholeheartedly agree with your first statement.

jesus christ are you fucking kidding me

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 09:26 AM

reprise85 · 03-06-2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

You're welcome.

yes

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Originally Posted by Woody

Lucky 13 is a better rocker than TEG, Glass, Cash Car.

Saturnine is a good song, but the EP version doesn't do it justice.

not better than saturnine or TEG

Joey Goldberg · 03-06-2020, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

no

then you're in no place whatsoever to be accusing anyone of "smoking some kill"

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 09:42 AM

hahaha

dude. lucky 13 is ballsy and demented. teg tries so hard and falls flat on its face (accept for the chorus. I love that shit). glass is ok but kinda corny tbh. cash car star straight blows.

sorry, it's just like my opinion man.

MplsTaper · 03-06-2020, 09:58 AM

now playing: https://archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.Q101

MplsTaper · 03-06-2020, 10:00 AM

You are so fucked
It has begun

Shadaloo · 03-06-2020, 10:49 AM

I listened to nothing but the Q101 version for years but I've recently come around on the Virgin promos a bit.

dustrocck · 03-06-2020, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody

Hahaha dustrocks WRECKED.

If this thread is any indication Machina re-issue sales could break double figures. Bill is thinking about how many hours of wrestlers pal time he can buy with those $$$.

Oh I was drinking but the song was released as a Machina song and it's still one of the worst songs he's ever released.

The best part is he keeps releasing it on Zeitgeist and Monuments and Shiny Happy Pepole over and over again.

Woody · 03-06-2020, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

hahaha

dude. lucky 13 is ballsy and demented. teg tries so hard and falls flat on its face (accept for the chorus. I love that shit). glass is ok but kinda corny tbh. cash car star straight blows.

sorry, it's just like my opinion man.

Agree with all of this.

Lucky 13 was a stylistic departure that shouldn’t have worked, kind of like Modest Mouse releasing Pistol, yet it has stood the test of time and still sounds fucking great.

It probably should’ve been a single. It would sit comfortably alongside Seven Nation Army on early 00’s radio.

Joey Goldberg · 03-06-2020, 03:41 PM

Lucky 13 is just kind of whatever to me, I honestly thought people lumped it in a ranking not too far from Because You Are. Glass Theme I'll agree kinda sucks, but M2 Cash Car is a masterpiece of obnoxiousness. forget the lyrics, it's the sound of BC/JC's synchronic ass-kicking on the level of a Jellybelly or HKK

y'all clearly love being wrong about TEG so i'm not even gonna address that

trev · 03-06-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

hahaha

dude. lucky 13 is ballsy and demented. teg tries so hard and falls flat on its face (accept for the chorus. I love that shit). glass is ok but kinda corny tbh. cash car star straight blows.

sorry, it's just like my opinion man.

they speak the truth

FoolofaTook · 03-06-2020, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MplsTaper

You are so fucked
It has begun

You light up the sky
And scrape out your skull

reprise85 · 03-06-2020, 10:35 PM

teg is beautiful except the acapella part, you guys are smoking crack

trev · 03-07-2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by reprise85

teg is beautiful except the acapella part, you guys are smoking crack

that part is the worst for sure, but the verses aren't great, and the 'you know i'm not dead' bits make me wince.

LaBelle · 03-07-2020, 10:12 AM

most of the heavy songs from the machina era seem a bit forced to me. They're fine for what they are, but the best songs are the relatively mellow ones for sure.

I can imagine Billy being very much still in the Adore mindset songwriting wise and feeling he had to bring the rawk to be critically acclaimed again.

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03-05-2020, 05:26 PM	#2132
AveryLoren Apocalyptic Poster Location: Upside Down Narnia Posts: 1,140	I think Adore and MACHINA had a lot of crossover when it came to the writing.

03-06-2020, 12:33 AM	#2134
houseofglass11 Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,045	I don't give a crap about some stupid Machina story or concept that you're nerding out about. Even Billy couldn't figure out what it was about. What matters is the quality of the songs and those are two that should not be left off of any Machina II playlist.

03-06-2020, 02:49 AM	#2138
Woody Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,783	Slow Dawn, Vanity, Lucky 13 & Speed Kills should be on the album.

03-06-2020, 08:20 AM	#2142
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: The beard keeps growing to hard times for his shaver... Posts: 34,121	I wholeheartedly agree with your first statement. Spacey saturnine is my jam tho.

03-06-2020, 09:26 AM	#2146
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: The beard keeps growing to hard times for his shaver... Posts: 34,121	no

03-06-2020, 09:42 AM	#2149
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: The beard keeps growing to hard times for his shaver... Posts: 34,121	hahaha dude. lucky 13 is ballsy and demented. teg tries so hard and falls flat on its face (accept for the chorus. I love that shit). glass is ok but kinda corny tbh. cash car star straight blows. sorry, it's just like my opinion man.

03-06-2020, 09:58 AM	#2150
MplsTaper Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,759	now playing: https://archive.org/details/machina.II.ver.Q101

03-06-2020, 10:00 AM	#2151
MplsTaper Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,759	You are so fucked It has begun

03-06-2020, 10:49 AM	#2152
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,003	I listened to nothing but the Q101 version for years but I've recently come around on the Virgin promos a bit.

03-06-2020, 03:41 PM	#2155
Joey Goldberg Apocalyptic Poster Location: somewhere trying to deal with all the "bougie" dipshits! Posts: 1,931	Lucky 13 is just kind of whatever to me, I honestly thought people lumped it in a ranking not too far from Because You Are. Glass Theme I'll agree kinda sucks, but M2 Cash Car is a masterpiece of obnoxiousness. forget the lyrics, it's the sound of BC/JC's synchronic ass-kicking on the level of a Jellybelly or HKK y'all clearly love being wrong about TEG so i'm not even gonna address that

03-06-2020, 10:35 PM	#2158
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 31,431	teg is beautiful except the acapella part, you guys are smoking crack

03-07-2020, 10:12 AM	#2160
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 10,864	most of the heavy songs from the machina era seem a bit forced to me. They're fine for what they are, but the best songs are the relatively mellow ones for sure. I can imagine Billy being very much still in the Adore mindset songwriting wise and feeling he had to bring the rawk to be critically acclaimed again.