Who's going to Ravinia?

[Trotskilicious]

means the shirt between the buttons gets oval shaped, in extreme cases you can see pudges of fat through these gaps

also they come open. looks like he's not quite there, but again somone mentioned he's probably sucking the gut in

[Trotskilicious]

being fat is the new black

[panda show]

seriously, a career-retrospective show without any pre-gish/gish song? I expected him to at least play rhinoceros..

[Araneae]

Hopefully everyone had a great time. Set list looks about what I expected, as he did say that he was going to play his favorites. Though, he should have included a Gish song, rhino or crush would have fit on that set list just fine. I had hoped that he would resist the urge to in.clude his wrestling obsession into the show, but it is what it is.

[amoergosum]

"Of A Broken Heart"

[with Resistance Pro Wrestling]
>>>

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Araneae

I had hoped that he would resist the urge to in.clude his wrestling obsession into the show, but it is what it is.

He needs footage for his wrestling reality show.

[panda show]

did you guys see MONTY? somebody here said that they will kick his ass

[Elphenor]

No Whir. What the fuck

[fuzzyroes]

I think its a pretty solid set list. Lots of good stuff in there for the hardcore fans and enough notables for the casual fans to enjoy.

[wHATcOLOR]

aware that my opinion on this doesn't matter, but figured i'd offer my take anyway:

initial reaction the the setlist, assuming it's correct, having heard nothing:


really would have been excited to hear these:

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

To forgive
Muzzle
Galapagos
Methusela
33

would enjoy these:

Chicago (on piano)
MCIS
Perfect

really depends on how these were performed:

Beginning is the end is the beginning
Stand inside your love
of a broken heart

for example - if stand inside your love had immediacy and earnestness- pretty dope. if it's phoned in, much less so.



honestly not really pumped on these, don't have much emotional connection w/ them, but give 'em the benefit of the doubt:

Let me give the world
Pinwheels
Rose march

have never enjoyed these:

Crying tree of mercury
Now and then
For your love
Prairie song
Lonely is the name

and hard to be enthused w/ these: pure greatest hits, always played at nearly every show. seems like a waste to have about 20% of your setlist to be of this category, when you've called it out as a really special, unique event. you could take just 1 or 2 of these, and sub in 3 of the "always plays these too" list i put down below and probably be better off while still getting in your quota

Today
Disarm
Tonight tonight
1979
Ava Adore

off the top of my head, some songs that would have been impressive / exciting to have included:
not worth asking
porcelina
medellia of the grey skies
rotten apples
stumbleine
pennies
the tale of dusty and pistol pete
crush
snail
set the ray to jerry
la dolly vita
whir
lily
blank page
beautiful
by starlight
luna
here is no why
try, try, try
this time
with every light
czarina
once in a while
daphne descends
speed kills
rocket


some songs that would still hit the "we've played this a ton of times before" but preferable to some in the list:
to sheila
mayonaise
soma
drown
geek usa
zero


i think what this reinforces for me is that there is no change when it comes to me not connecting w/ billy's view of his work for the last decade+
last time i really connected w/ it i supposed is the last show on 12/2/2000. was an amazing dig through the archives. just a really great job. sure there was some machina stuff in there that kind of dragged, but some of the ones he dug ou treally impressed. don't have that feeling here. that's fine, it's his thing, he should continue doing as he sees best, but i'm glad i didn't seriously consider attending

hoping the adore reissue delivers, have been looking forward to that one at least as much as mcis and tafh. gotta give him credit for those

[Ram27]

The fact that a bunch of wrestlers came into sing a sad ballad at the end of a theroetically 'special' show is the most Billy Corgan thing Billy Corgan's ever done.


Also he picked the two most boring Zwan songs. Also no fucking Whir.

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Ram27

The fact that a bunch of wrestlers came into sing a sad ballad at the end of a theroetically 'special' show is the most Billy Corgan thing Billy Corgan's ever done.

http://i.giflike.com/CWu0f57.gif

[Ram27]

They didn't let the clowns sing Geek USA

[amayain]

Originally Posted by panda show

did you guys see MONTY? somebody here said that they will kick his ass

Asking the important questions

[amoergosum]

LOL >>>

Spending a Saturday night away from the ring at @RaviniaFestival watching @Billy and @mwBATTERY perform @D_arcyDixon pic.twitter.com/GdEYLBwn3v

— Chris Amann (@WWEDocAmann) 31. August 2014

[amoergosum]

rehearsing with @Billy Corgan for @RaviniaFestival tomorrow night #chicago pic.twitter.com/tELnrwt6VZ

— Ξx Cops (@ExCops) 30. August 2014

Soundcheck @RaviniaFestival w @Billy Corgan #excited pic.twitter.com/W0FVGbYLY9

— Ξx Cops (@ExCops) 30. August 2014

[Pizza Club]

Originally Posted by Funbags

Did he use the modular synth, or was it just there for show?

Also: WHERE WERE THE DEEP CUTS

I already said that they only seemed to be used on World's Fair

[D.]

Show was fun. I updated on FB because I'm old and that's the only social media I use. Trots, Sarah, and others were fucking hilarious commenting on my posts so that made it worth it.

B+/B show. My friend and I sat right next to Peter (fake producer), although I can't remember if he was more of a blamo douche or if there was a crossover with Netphoria.

And there was a couple who were making out non stop for literally half the first part of the set. People were dyyyying around us, some taking pics, Peter's girlfriend or wife or whatever was being funny about it.

Now,,, the long drive back to KCMO.

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by Pizza Club

I already said that they only seemed to be used on World's Fair

Did it go: BLEEP BLOOP WORLDS FAIR BLOOP ???

[amoergosum]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwVtcrpIcAI2-rH.jpg

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by Pizza Club

There was a song called Burnt Orange Black with Ex-Cops. Might have been their song. There was another song the Ex-Cops chick sang that had Billy's name in it (I think?).

This is actually a new song:

“BURNT ORANGE-BLACK’ was next, and this is one of those songs that has that timeless ring to it. Slow, languid, but powerful, with a set of changes you could jam all night on. But…Howard said, “It’s no single,” and we agreed. Not that every song has to be a single, mind you, but ‘single’ here is code word for’ it could be better,’ or ‘this idea has more potential that it’s showing.’ With that I tried adding a stuttering guitar figure, and presto! Change-o! We at least had something that sounded radio-worthy, which is funny considering the staccato stuff was the only change. Shows you how thin the premise is a good song vs a great one. Etc, etc. Score: 3-0.

[panda show]

it didn't end up on the upcoming album though, at least if I remember correctly

[amoergosum]

"Muzzle"

This is a pretty cool version actually >>>

[nice moment there at 1:05]

[T&T]

did he say "and the squirrel so hard to understand"?

[amoergosum]

Edit.

[Araneae]

Was that the full version of muzzle? He just kept repeating that one stanza throughout those two minutes. Muzzle has some of my favorite lyrics so I'm not sure how I feel about it, but the music sounds nice (except his singing).

Is it me or does it seem like there's a lot of talking throughout the concert? It's like the music was a backdrop to their evening.

[Araneae]

According to the Tribune review, the "MCIS suite" was just bits of each song compiled together.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entert...901-story.html

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by Araneae

According to the Tribune review, the "MCIS suite" was just bits of each song compiled together.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entert...901-story.html

This article says nothing of the sort.

[paranoid]

"Piped-in samples also boosted "Thirty-Three" and "1979," part of a suite of stripped-down "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" compositions that displayed Corgan's growth as a singer. Replacing volume with nuance and screaming with suggestiveness, he put the lyrics on equal footing with beautiful melodies. Focusing on such details, he drew out extra poignancy and vulnerability, particularly on the fragile note-interlaced twirl of "Galapogos" and piano-based confession "To Forgive."

'Piped in samples' means pre recorded drum loops or whatever. 'Stripped down' means he played the songs without the heavy instrumentation present on the album.

Unless I missed something here about each bit of the song compiled together?

[amoergosum]

Here we go >>>