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Old 02-25-2022, 02:38 PM   #1
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Default Siames Dream Double Album Tracklist

1. "Cherub Rock" 4:58
2. "Quiet" 3:41
3. "Today" 3:19
4. "Hummer" 6:57
5. "Rocket" 4:06
6. "Disarm" 3:17
7. "Soma" 6:39

1. "Geek U.S.A." 5:13
2. "Mayonaise" 5:50
3. "Spaceboy" 4:28
4. "Silverfuck" 8:43
5. "Sweet Sweet" 1:38
6. "Luna" 3:20

 
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Old 02-25-2022, 03:13 PM   #2
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Disc 1: IF THE POISON DOESN'T TAKE YOU...
1. Spiteface
2. Spiteface
3. Spiteface
4. Spiteface
5. Spiteface
6. Spiteface
7. Spiteface
8. Spiteface

Disc 2: ...MY DOGS WILL
1. Spiteface
2. Spiteface
3. Today [opening riff only] --> Spiteface
4. Spiteface
5. Spiteface
6. Spiteface
7. Spiteface
8. Spiteface

 
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Old 02-25-2022, 07:05 PM   #3
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Disc I
01 - Sinfony
02 - Quiet
03 - Disarm
04 - Cherub Rock
05 - Today
06 - Hummer
07 - Rocket
08 - Soma
09 - Geek U.S.A.
10 - Mayonaise
11 - Spaceboy
12 - Silverfuck
13 - Sweet Sweet
14 - Luna

Time 1:03:05

Disc II
15 - Soothe
16 - Frail & Bedazzled
17 - Plume
18 - Whir
19 - Blew Away
20 - Pissant
21 - Hello Kitty Kat
22 - Obscured
23 - Moleasskiss
24 - Starla
25 - Blue
26 - Slunk
27 - La Dolly Vita
28 - Drown

Time 1:03:20

 
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Old 02-25-2022, 09:18 PM   #4
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fuck that Spaced is amazing

 
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Old 02-28-2022, 04:39 PM   #5
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Disc I
01 - Sinfony
02 - Quiet
03 - Disarm
04 - Cherub Rock
05 - Today
06 - Hummer
07 - Rocket
08 - Soma
09 - Geek U.S.A.
10 - Mayonaise
11 - Spaceboy
12 - Silverfuck
13 - Sweet Sweet
14 - Luna

Time 1:03:05

Disc II
15 - Soothe
16 - Frail & Bedazzled
17 - Plume
18 - Whir
19 - Blew Away
20 - Pissant
21 - Hello Kitty Kat
22 - Obscured
23 - Moleasskiss
24 - Starla
25 - Blue
26 - Slunk
27 - La Dolly Vita
28 - Drown

Time 1:03:20
Imagine not starting a disc with Cherub Rock

 
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Old 02-28-2022, 09:45 PM   #6
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Imagine not starting a disc with Cherub Rock
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Old 03-01-2022, 01:59 AM   #7
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Imagine not starting a disc with Cherub Rock
Look at your avatar bro.

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 06:38 AM   #8
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Slunk, Drown, La Dolly Vita, Blue, and Starla belong to the Gish era. So does Obscured, but it wasn't released until 1993.

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 08:50 AM   #9
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starla was after gish - drown too.

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Old 03-01-2022, 12:15 PM   #10
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starla was after gish - drown too.
Starla was released on the I Am One single, at least in the UK it was. Drown was recorded well before the SD sessions began (and it sounds like Gish).

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 12:22 PM   #11
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starla was after gish - drown too.
He said in the 'deep dive' on Gish on the SP Youtube channel that they were playing around with Drown around the time they were recording Gish, but it wasn't ready yet. I think he might have said the same about Starla but could be wrong

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 03:59 PM   #12
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Both Drown and Starla are from the Siamese era for sure. Drown might be the catalyst for the change.

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 04:35 PM   #13
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Disc 1: Siamese Dream
Disc 2: Pisces Iscariot

Tack drown onto the end like AveryLoren said.

Fuck yeah

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 08:52 PM   #14
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Starla was released on the I Am One single, at least in the UK it was.
yes, which was recorded sometime in 1992 and released in august 1992. gish was recorded december 1990 - march 1991 and released in may 1991.

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Drown was recorded well before the SD sessions began (and it sounds like Gish).
drown was first demoed in 1991 along with rocket and silverfuck as the first batch of "new" songs after gish.

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 09:32 PM   #15
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Imagine not starting a disc with Cherub Rock
So sick of this “imagine” meme as an effortless way of casting shade on someone else’s words or views or feelings or tracklist

Imagine being a lazy humorless negative sack of shit using an irritating played out meme, it took more effort to log in here than to make that post, why even bother?

Anyway this is all to say, fuck you, this is a boundary, stop saying “imagine” it’s making me upset which is not good for my recovery

 
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Old 03-01-2022, 10:03 PM   #16
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it's easy if you try

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 12:40 AM   #17
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it's weird to think Starla was Gish era. it sounds so much bigger and gazy than everything else

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 01:17 AM   #18
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Drown and Starla have Siamese Dream vibes to me, I can't separate them from that era even if it isn't entirely accurate. I actually had no idea they weren't SD outtakes, they really feel like they are.

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:16 AM   #19
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Drown and Starla sound nothing like SD though. The production and mixing is lifted straight from the Gish playbook.

Sure they were recorded after Gish came out, but that doesn't make them Siamese Dream outtakes either. Starla was literally released on a Gish single.

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:38 AM   #20
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you are all wrong

eras are delineated by the length of Billy's hair

and then the length of his gaultier

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:47 AM   #21
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Starla > Gish

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 06:42 AM   #22
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Drown and Starla have Siamese Dream vibes to me, I can't separate them from that era even if it isn't entirely accurate. I actually had no idea they weren't SD outtakes, they really feel like they are.
yes, that's because they are sd era songs.

they just pushed ahead the recording and releasing of a few tracks to fill some gaps between albums. plume was also going on the siamese album recording pile until they were asked for some b-sides.

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:30 AM   #23
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if they hadn't been pushed through, they would have gotten the full SD treatment @ the SD recording sessions December 1992 – March 1993
Early rocket recordings suffer from the same "gish treatment", but got the "step up" at Triclops. There's no reason to think Plume, Starla & Drown would not have benefited in the same way.


Once GISH was out... everything after is SD era.

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:03 AM   #24
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I'm happy with the way Starla sounds

I agree on rocket, though. Gish era versions have a very different feel.

imagine all the pre-gish songs having the "gish treatment" tho

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 12:18 PM   #25
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Imagine all of Gish getting the SD treatment
Imagine MCIS with the SD treatment.
imagine ADORE with the SD treatment.

Imagine CYR as the turd that it is.

 
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Imagine all of Gish getting the SD treatment
Imagine MCIS with the SD treatment.
imagine ADORE with the SD treatment.

Imagine CYR as the turd that it is.
Imagine listening to the 1996 Pastichio Medley (Split) (T&T) that T&T painstakingly separated and never saying thanks. Thanks buddy, I should have said it much sooner!

 
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Old 03-02-2022, 03:59 PM   #27
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I am super interested in a MCIS and Adore makeover, SD style. Not interested enough to learn instruments to make it, but I would listen to the fuck out of those!

 
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So sick of this “imagine” meme as an effortless way of casting shade on someone else’s words or views or feelings or tracklist

Imagine being a lazy humorless negative sack of shit using an irritating played out meme, it took more effort to log in here than to make that post, why even bother?

Anyway this is all to say, fuck you, this is a boundary, stop saying “imagine” it’s making me upset which is not good for my recovery
my goodness you are upset!

 
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All of Adore was actually Gish era.

 
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