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08-24-2005, 06:37 PM | #1 |
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Salt Lake City, Utah - Illegal and brutally violent military incident
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Blog Account Accounts Video of the Incident Regardless of superficial circumstances, what kind of music, even if there were drugs there (even though promoters had people in charge of confiscating them)... this is a blatant violation of our Constitutional rights and ever American should be angry. Imagine you go down to your bar one night and military comes in with attack dogs, tear gas and start beating your ass, because they felt it necessary to make a statement. Last edited by Quiet CD : 08-24-2005 at 06:39 PM. |
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08-24-2005, 06:42 PM | #2 |
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While this event, like most of these accounts, has been over-dramatized and hyperboled to death, I agree that Americans need to be very, very aware of the abuses going on in the name of the Drug War. I wish, though, that those on the left could see that there is no principled difference between raids on raves and cigarette taxes and regulations.
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08-24-2005, 07:03 PM | #3 |
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at least pot arrests-are-up-ooops-i-mean-use-is-down you guys!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...region=single7 edit--does anyone else find it amusing that this happened in utah?? Last edited by transluscent : 08-24-2005 at 07:05 PM. |
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08-24-2005, 07:03 PM | #4 |
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How can you say that, are people beaten by military forces when they buy cigarettes and not pay taxes (if that were possible)?, apples and fucking bananas.
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08-24-2005, 09:09 PM | #5 | |
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And if you believe the accounts that "nobody was doing anything wrong and then the police came in and kicked the shit out of everyone" you're quite gullible. Police brutality is rarely found when there are that many officers involved.
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08-24-2005, 09:38 PM | #6 |
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Watch the fucking video there is brutality... those look like U.S. Army soldiers not Police.
Even if every last person there was on drugs (which they weren't) what they did was still wrong. |
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08-24-2005, 09:46 PM | #7 | |
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A few stoned asshats resisting arrest and getting roughed up by the police for their trouble is not exactly my idea of the Thought Police coming down. |
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seriously, doesnt this seem extreme/wrong to you at all? |
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08-24-2005, 10:24 PM | #11 | |
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08-24-2005, 10:35 PM | #12 | |
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I sympathize with anyone who is mistreated by the police. However, I didn't see the police do anything inappropriate on that video, so it is the ravers' word against the cops. Sadly I will have to side with the cops on this one. - Dave |
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I love how so many of you openly criticize a facet of culture you are far too sheltered even to begin to understand, let alone experience. |
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08-24-2005, 11:40 PM | #15 | |
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Also, "everyone else" are ravers. How would they know whether or not there was a proper permit?
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08-24-2005, 11:51 PM | #16 |
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Also I just watched fascism.mov. What a poorly named file. It showed the cops tell the guy to turn off the music and then ask the cameraman to leave and then arresting some people (the reasons weren't on camera) while other people were walking out unmolested
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------------------------------------- The PCA [Posse Comitatus Act of 1878] criminalizes, effectively prohibiting, the use of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus [11] to execute the laws of the United States. It reads: Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. [12] Source Quote:
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08-25-2005, 12:07 AM | #19 |
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The reports I've seen indicate military police and swat presence, but regardless, swat isnt police, its a paramilitary group of thugs paid for by US tax dollars
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08-25-2005, 12:19 AM | #21 |
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what i dont really understand is, what threat or perceived threat were they responding to when the decided to employ soldiers in full combat dress with assault rifles? i get the idea of rave bust, but where in that is there a necessity for such a measure? using such forces isnt in itself wrong, but i just dont really get it and havent seen an explanation for it yet. granted, i havent looked very hard
but this is what you get for living in mormon country. utah is their turf, everyone knows that |
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08-25-2005, 01:14 AM | #25 | |
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I think that dispersing the sheer mass amount of people there probably required a little more than a handful of uniformed officers could muster. |
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08-25-2005, 01:19 AM | #26 | |
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08-25-2005, 01:25 AM | #28 |
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bunch of faggots if you ask me
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08-25-2005, 01:26 AM | #29 |
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you know who i envision when i think of you, corganist? the military dad from american beauty
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08-25-2005, 01:28 AM | #30 |
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