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Old 10-05-2017, 05:56 PM   #31
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never forget the original SJW in mainstream culture

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:57 PM   #32
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also just want to chime in and mention that social media is garbage unless you have some product to promote.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:05 PM   #33
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i promote me, which is also my brand

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:55 PM   #34
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I haven't paid my dues.
Are you yet another bi person who feels they aren't bi enough?

Because every single one of us feels or has felt this way. I'd say you've paid your dues.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:13 PM   #35
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i promote me, which is also my brand

Which is what? Being scuzzy and generally disgusting. Please don't try to front like you're a special liberal or whatever, because I lean left but I just think you're gross.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:39 PM   #36
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Doesn't Scotty have OCD? I don't see him as scuzzy or gross at all. Dude probably washes his hands with bleach. I'd feel safe shaking his hand.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:42 PM   #37
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I'd let Scotty compulsively touch my face all over.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:50 PM   #38
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also just want to chime in and mention that social media is garbage unless you have some product to promote.
In which case it's extra garbage.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:05 PM   #39
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I'd let Scotty compulsively touch my face all over.
May I be allowed to furtively watch from the shadows?

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:30 PM   #40
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I'd let Scotty compulsively touch my face all over.
i will be gentle. I have soft hands. I'll speak soothing things to you.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:58 PM   #41
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Are you yet another bi person who feels they aren't bi enough?

Because every single one of us feels or has felt this way. I'd say you've paid your dues.
I don't feel like I should be more bi, I was just very dishonest about myself for a very long time, which made me pretty lonely and unhappy for years. Now I don't care at all, but it's too late to start pretending like I've been on the LGBTQ train all along.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:34 PM   #42
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Scott, this is some really nice activist work you're doing here. You should feel proud of yourself!

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:49 PM   #43
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on sunday I am going on a date with a woman who identifies as queer. can someone explain what this means to me

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:57 PM   #44
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afaik queer just means "not heterosexual" and/or "not cisgender"

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:49 PM   #45
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How queer.

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:50 PM   #46
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Sounds like a very logical idea RBG. I'm sure it will be a match made in heaven!

 
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:51 PM   #47
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Oh boy here we go.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:38 AM   #48
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del masel tov!

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 01:33 AM   #49
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Sounds like a very logical idea RBG. I'm sure it will be a match made in heaven!
she's a jewish feminist socialist who likes weed. so basically we might be the same person. and she is fucking cute and she asked ME out.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:07 AM   #50
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Sounds like a very logical idea RBG. I'm sure it will be a match made in heaven!
Get out of my thread you stupid bigot fuck!

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:09 AM   #51
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I don't feel like I should be more bi, I was just very dishonest about myself for a very long time, which made me pretty lonely and unhappy for years. Now I don't care at all, but it's too late to start pretending like I've been on the LGBTQ train all along.
Don't worry. Live your life. Be happy now. There is no rule book.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:12 AM   #52
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I don't feel like I should be more bi, I was just very dishonest about myself for a very long time, which made me pretty lonely and unhappy for years. Now I don't care at all, but it's too late to start pretending like I've been on the LGBTQ train all along.
I only came out at 32. I was writing an e-mail to a friend who at the time was 23, and I referred to her as a straight person (because when we first met a couple of years before, she said she was) - but knowing her as I knew her then, it felt a bit wrong to assign that word to her. So I started writing a convoluted e-mail to ask her if she was bi, and by the end of it I had come out too (both to her and to myself). She had gone through the same thing except at a much earlier age than me.

I have been happy. I'm not going to say there are no strange attitudes towards bi people in parts of the LGBT community, because there are. But people can be more welcoming than you think. There's a long way to go, but awareness of bi issues is higher now than even five years ago too. I'm friends with gay men who would say pretty terrible things about bi people 10 years ago, and they now ask themselves why they did that. They have bi friends, and they have relationships with bi people, and they know we aren't just fake gay or fake straight.

Lots of bi people feel they aren't bi enough, or that they don't count because they haven't been with a same sex partner, or that they are bi but they have no claim over the word because they don't "live" it. There are a lot of us in monogamous straight relationships. Again, you didn't miss the boat - you are on the very same boat as most of us.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:37 AM   #53
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afaik queer just means "not heterosexual" and/or "not cisgender"
Mostly this, but the word also has non-assimilationist undertones. I'd say being queer means being outside heternormative culture, and thinking that the way forward isn't about being accepted into the mainstream. It's about questioning the idea that we should be getting married and organizing our lives around straight relationship models. It's about questioning what it means to love someone, and what it means to have a family, and finding alternative ways to structure your life other than a very private and isolating notion of couplehood.

You could say that this has nothing to do with being gay or straight, and in a sense this is true. There are gay people who are very traditional in every other aspect of their lives. There are straight people who aren't. But it's impossible to deny that historically, queer people have engaged with those questions - and created a culture around them - to a much greater extent than straight people have.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:57 AM   #54
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on sunday I am going on a date with a woman who identifies as queer. can someone explain what this means to me
It really doesn't "mean" anything out of the ordinary. It's a date, try to have fun and don't order the soup.

NEVER order the soup.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:45 AM   #55
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:46 AM   #56
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Doesn't Scotty have OCD? I don't see him as scuzzy or gross at all. Dude probably washes his hands with bleach. I'd feel safe shaking his hand.
lol, bleach hands unite! not a fan of shaking hands but yea, scotty is likely a safe bet.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:05 PM   #57
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Sometimes I feel like I'm not hetero enough. Like, I really dig chicks, but I could be banging more of them, you know?
If your posts here are any indication, I can certainly see why you'd have trouble in that regard.

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:16 PM   #58
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I only came out at 32. I was writing an e-mail to a friend who at the time was 23, and I referred to her as a straight person (because when we first met a couple of years before, she said she was) - but knowing her as I knew her then, it felt a bit wrong to assign that word to her. So I started writing a convoluted e-mail to ask her if she was bi, and by the end of it I had come out too (both to her and to myself). She had gone through the same thing except at a much earlier age than me.

I have been happy. I'm not going to say there are no strange attitudes towards bi people in parts of the LGBT community, because there are. But people can be more welcoming than you think. There's a long way to go, but awareness of bi issues is higher now than even five years ago too. I'm friends with gay men who would say pretty terrible things about bi people 10 years ago, and they now ask themselves why they did that. They have bi friends, and they have relationships with bi people, and they know we aren't just fake gay or fake straight.

Lots of bi people feel they aren't bi enough, or that they don't count because they haven't been with a same sex partner, or that they are bi but they have no claim over the word because they don't "live" it. There are a lot of us in monogamous straight relationships. Again, you didn't miss the boat - you are on the very same boat as most of us.
This is anecdotal and probably wrong, but the most compassionate people I know are all bi. They also tend to be very smart. It seems like a pattern. Like everyone I've talked to in the mental health field about it are bi, or I see it incidentally. Like both my therapist and psychiatrist are bi. My therapist I know because she is divorced and has talked about her new partner as 'she'. My psychiatrist is really open about it on his facebook page (we aren't friends on FB but I've seen it). Like I'm probably just seeing this because I myself am bi, but it does seem like a pattern. Like you could guess their orientation just by how open minded they are in general

 
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:36 PM   #59
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:37 PM   #60
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Wrong page. Sigh.

Twas supposed to follow the poots comment.

 
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