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Old 05-09-2018, 02:22 AM   #1
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watching MCIS bootleg videos tonight and seeing Billy in a Zero shirt playing Disarm is just wrong. some songs just don't fit with the zero character. it's just out of place. the PJ shows were free of this irk.




The outfit is a great icon, but billy honestly wears it badly. The pants are saggy, the base shirt lacks any 'cut'. even if they were playing stadiums - it was still amateur hour.


on the good side the instrumentation was A+++.

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:46 AM   #2
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watching MCIS bootleg videos tonight and seeing Billy in a Zero shirt playing Disarm is just wrong. some songs just don't fit with the zero character. it's just out of place. the PJ shows were free of this irk.




The outfit is a great icon, but billy honestly wears it badly. The pants are saggy, the base shirt lacks any 'cut'. even if they were playing stadiums - it was still amateur hour.


on the good side the instrumentation was A+++.
This whole post deserves a "what"

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:47 AM   #3
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You're associating Disarm and other SD songs with the clothes/hair of 92-94 because those songs were composed and played at every show during that time. It's just associative behavior.

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:49 AM   #4
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Also the Zero character was bullshit. He just found a look that reflected what MCIS sounded like. Nihilistic, scattered, dark-side-of-the-moon-kinda persona. It was never a concept-character.

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:19 AM   #5
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Playing the heel.

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:52 AM   #6
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I agree actually, I've always thought the entire Zero 'uniform' or whatever was horrible. Corgan had more rad style from Gish leading up to Mellon Collie, I always loved the 70s look or Sears sweaters look

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:43 PM   #7
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Yeah, I was never into the whole zero shirt. It gives off vibes I don't necessarily like about the band

SD aesthetic was great - they just looked like normal people playing kickass songs

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:01 PM   #8
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What about Billy's Oceania aesthetic.

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:05 PM   #9
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shrunk shirt belly and ass out?

 
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:20 PM   #10
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:54 PM   #11
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There’s no excuse that a professionally recorded sound mix should sound this bad

 
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:57 AM   #12
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no one thought to tell billy to lay off the cake?

 
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:28 AM   #13
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Nicole was great

 
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:56 AM   #14
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I like the flowery shirts from the Gish and SD era. It was psychedelic and juxtaposed the flannel grunge aesthetic of the time.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/khfFL0JgYqU/hqdefault.jpg
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:00 PM   #15
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:00 PM   #16
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i'm like not gay or anything but james is drop dead gorgeous in the above pic

 
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:36 PM   #17
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The Zero shirt was cool at the time. Y’all are lying if you say otherwise. Die hards went looking for silver pants

 
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Old 05-13-2018, 02:37 PM   #18
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That would be fantastic if the camera was only ever on Nicole, Jeff was slightly quieter and all of the audio was replaced with a good band

 
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Old 05-13-2018, 04:10 PM   #19
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Old 05-13-2018, 11:44 PM   #20
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It's like there's just no way Byrnesy would ever fit. He has no swing. He doesn't have the touch. Tonight tonight is not an overly complicated song, but he makes it sound so tiring. And whatever that ebow thing was from Jeff is just..... whatever. Also. the vocals are bad and why is Billy's guitar so loud and distorted.

 
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:46 AM   #21
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The drumming is the second best thing about that video ! First being Nicole’s legs. Wtf Billy just apologise and get her back.

The eBow would be ok it’s just way too loud

 
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The drumming is the second best thing about that video ! First being Nicole’s legs. Wtf Billy just apologise and get her back.

The eBow would be ok it’s just way too loud
If you want to see chicken legs, go to KFC...

Who-is-Jeff, playing eBow like a whining saw?
He could do so at Saturday Night Live -being part of a comedy sketch.


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Old 05-14-2018, 07:17 AM   #23
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ur dad is way too loud

if you know what i mean

 
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:02 AM   #24
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his ebow sounds like a cheap single osc synth. like he might as well be using the stylophone that came with one of the 20 Siddartha boxsets Billy made him buy.

 
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Oh my god I forgot how bad Tonight tonight was on that. Byrne sounds like he’s fucking banging a club, Billy’s voice fucked, and the mix is just horrific.

 
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Old 05-14-2018, 11:41 AM   #26
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The released "Oceania Live In NYC" was their coffin nail.

 
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