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09-07-2018, 06:24 AM | #61 |
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not in the mexican community. he's completely rated:
https://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision...ry?id=17481437 https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...nos-california |
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09-07-2018, 06:32 AM | #62 |
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Ye crowd is a solid 50% Mexican American when I've seen him
20% young whites who go on their own and leave on their own But yo Moz solo ain't The Smiths! |
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09-07-2018, 06:33 AM | #63 |
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and beyonce aint destiny's child
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09-07-2018, 06:35 AM | #64 |
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09-07-2018, 06:36 AM | #65 |
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I'm not here on this platform to indulge in controversial subjects. I'm just here for some casual, friendly conversation. I have never heard of such a man. Sounds like a legend, though.
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09-07-2018, 06:45 AM | #66 |
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uh, no. i can vaguely assign labels, too. and you're forgetting about the psychedelic furs, echo and the bunny men, new order, the flying lizards, PiL, siouxsie & the banshees, etc. the smiths can be there, too.
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09-07-2018, 06:47 AM | #67 |
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09-07-2018, 06:57 AM | #68 | |
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I thought of new-wave as being more accessible and pop-oriented than post-punk. Like, an art-rock/art-pop reaction toward popular rock styles that had sort of grown stale at the time, but still keeping influences from genres with mainstream appeal, like disco and whatnot. I'm not sure which of the two genres preceded the other, but it seems many artists fell into both post-punk and new-wave categories, because their catalogue included both radio-friendly and more obscure works (The Cure being a prime example of this), while some other artists would mostly fall into one or the other. |
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09-07-2018, 11:57 AM | #69 | |
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I wouldn't consider any of those five bands "post punk" per se except Joy Division, which is why I said if you are going to cast such a wide net under one label why not ******* these other tangentially related bands |
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09-07-2018, 11:59 AM | #70 |
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I guess to me if someone says something is new wave I think of the pop version of post punk basically
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09-07-2018, 12:53 PM | #71 |
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I'd say The Cure is post-punk. I don't see how one can be gothic rock without being post-punk. It's a subgenre of post-punk, imo.
Unless we're talking about gothic metal or some shit, which shares no stylistic commonalities with gothic rock because if isn't even a descendent of punk at all. It's only gothic people the people dress all Victorian and shit. The Smiths, I'd say aren't technically post-punk, but influenced a lot of the same bands that post-punk acta did, and had some similarities, despite having a different genealogy. So, it makes sense go talk about The Smiths and post-punk in the same context, but they are a bit different. I'm just being super pedantic, though. In the end, it doesn't even matter (Linkin Park is post-punk). |
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09-07-2018, 01:14 PM | #72 |
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I guess we're just gonna gloss over the fact that Elphenor casually called R.E.M. "dogshit" a few posts ago
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09-07-2018, 02:29 PM | #73 |
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Re-reading my last post, it's clear that I was suffering a stroke.
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09-07-2018, 03:37 PM | #74 |
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Cure's first album is definitely post-punk and I'd extend that label to some degree through 17 seconds up to Faith, additionally call that Pornography gothic rock, and additionally apply the New Wave moniker to The Top up through Disintegration. I'd also count Disintegration as a goth rock album but I'd say they shed most traces of post-punk with Head On The Door; aside from the bassline to Fascination Street nothing really makes me think 'post-punk' on that album. Too wide in scope.
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09-07-2018, 06:28 PM | #75 | |
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the UK acts of that variety get the term jangle angle pop where as say in the US B52s and Pylon were labeled New Wave out the gate every popular post punk band has been described as new wave by somebody |
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09-07-2018, 06:33 PM | #76 |
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it's all under the umbrella of post punk for me
Mark E Smith and Morrissey both believed they could be vocalists because they saw a Sex Pistols gig |
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09-07-2018, 06:39 PM | #77 |
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Dead Kennedys mocked "new wave" as a marketing gimmick =)
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09-07-2018, 06:44 PM | #78 | |
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they just can't all be sick like Pere Ubu (who also got the new wave tag lol) |
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09-07-2018, 07:03 PM | #79 |
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oh yeah I forgot about U2
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09-07-2018, 07:11 PM | #80 |
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New Wave for me calls to mind bands influenced by Futurism and Krautrock ie DEVO but whatever ya want it to be that's fine
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09-07-2018, 07:18 PM | #81 |
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to be completely honest when I hear the phrase probably the first thing that pops into my head is take on me
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09-07-2018, 08:07 PM | #82 |
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How this manages to keep coming up, I'll never know.
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09-07-2018, 08:56 PM | #83 |
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I pop in once a week to ban pro-Trump Russian trolls.
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09-08-2018, 02:02 AM | #84 |
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09-08-2018, 11:16 AM | #85 |
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09-08-2018, 05:26 PM | #86 |
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Up next: is indie a genre?
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09-08-2018, 05:42 PM | #87 |
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i'm a masochist
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09-08-2018, 05:42 PM | #88 |
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I'm surprised you guys are so big on rap, considering it's the most masochistic music of any genre.
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09-08-2018, 06:56 PM | #89 |
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wait was I not obviously enough ironic when declaring The Smiths as underated as The Beatles or is everyone ironically playing back i dont know
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09-08-2018, 06:57 PM | #90 |
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