An album between Siamese Dream and MCIS with the Gravity songs would've been amazing.

[Slurpee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

I would trade Gish, Adore and the Machinas for a seven disc MCIS. For sure.

Is MCIS proper + TAFH not basically a 7 disc MCIS? How many more songs could we have squeezed out of that era? Obviously Billy couldn't fully complete a lot of the ideas on TAFH when given the opportunity - TAFH (the song) is barely produced. They're still fucking awesome but not sure much more was in the tank that would be worth sacrificing ALL of Adore, Gish, and Machina.

[FoolofaTook]

So I guess if we already have a seven disc MCIS that would mean that my dreams would have to come in the guise of a TWELVE DISC MCIS!!!

Holy Mother of Apoplexy

[T&T]

Originally Posted by Slurpee

- TAFH (the song) is barely produced.

what are you talking about?
the production for that track is spot on
not every track needs a million bolly choir, or a modular synth backing orchestra...

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by Slurpee

TAFH (the song) is barely produced.

Still trying to understand what this statement means besides this song being one of the greatest Pumpkins tracks. If this barely produced, give me more bared produced Pumpkin tracks.

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

Affirmative.

If anyone could help in getting these in lossless, your help would be greatly appreciated. Technically, wasn't the tape given to a fan with the permission to spread around? So it's not something against the rules to ask for, right?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Affirmative. It should be fine to share these. (But try to explain that to the RIAA. They don't give a shit. LOL!)

They've been around for years. I can hardly believe the only source you know of is mp3s on thepumpkins.net.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

the old files, from back in the day: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1234F70ABE723E691FDFF72D1D2607 05A4B0D1BE&dn=Billy%27s%20Gravity%20Demos%20I
(there might not be any seeds right now)

see also: http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=372

3331c7f9c1181dcd7231e6dba7646910 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\01 - Jellybelly.shn
ed2c09b6ac8d336bfb4e1e22de2950a2 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\02 - Beautiful One.shn
3762191a27d83c5953ce94b1612e3557 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\03 - Bullet with Butterfly Wings (vox).shn
7dbe4aea283396c5d4db967bf02bd8b8 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\04 - No Escape.shn
a97c57bedf3d4468bf5e2f4d80e2f0a8 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\05 - To Forgive For Nothing Less.shn
ca07fa93a8e16e305f61cc799f32acf6 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\06 - Blast.shn
c9cfd826e143c3fc2cb592e34397ef84 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\07 - Descendo.shn
8260ce0fbcd53e3861069aa9132a4b84 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\08 - And I Stumbled On To You.shn
65335ef801bde0a9d728a2fbad18612b [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\09 - Dizzle.shn
7535b34f634325e9c3f544c6635435bb [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\10 - A,Ab,E,B,F#.shn
f8183c14bc4e6c836a45f8d09a1646da [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\11 - Rings.shn
b37185afadd1226a08652362528b4a74 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\12 - James' Complex Song.shn
b73a64bf7a373ff7d92d6927e9f3a981 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\13 - With Longing.shn
5e08930ac3cd158b7591ed827fcfbc83 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\14 - Straight Ab.shn
f165fd8b580a95551eb9b94567d90b45 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\15 - Set the Ray to Jerry.shn
d6b7dd894a514302763de6cd80c37a87 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\16 - The Innocents.shn
3b84d36d330f23d4c0a4da45fcfd1f9b [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\17 - A Drone.shn
93b523639fd391c11df17681a29c33cb [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\18 - Lucky Lad .shn
f31912e5a424d9b13e08bd540d80d022 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\19 - Jackboot.shn
ecbf4f2f97e97d08ca63ba1b4ce04207 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\20 - New Wave A to G.shn
be76896946a4b9fe0663b4c5e53bf860 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\21 - A,B,G Drop A.shn
4cf2aae99355b36a7b074dcde06234af [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\22 - Glamey Glamay.shn
d148f2e98c74b904a121d20cfe93cd15 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\23 - Walking Country.shn
83785100c68a2522d61f9e6fc95ead1b [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\24 - Tonight, Tonight (in C).shn
d3e8604098d78dc59069d860d4960d80 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\25 - The Groover.shn
d86ed40f788e6405a2e15901fcde96e1 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\26 - Germans In Leather Pants.shn
795d4439d33c9f9201c27966809e1268 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\27 - Millieu.shn
218f008830b7ccdf250b41de70f58bd3 [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\28 - E-drone E,C#,A.shn
eaa85e9e22a870f891eed2ec1408742a [shntool] Billy's Gravity Demos I\29 - Disconnected.shn

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

the old files, from back in the day: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1234F70ABE723E691FDFF72D1D2607 05A4B0D1BE&dn=Billy%27s%20Gravity%20Demos%20I
(there might not be any seeds right now)

see also: http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=372

Thanks man! Will give these a shot. Appreciate the linkage.

[Slurpee]

Originally Posted by T&T

what are you talking about?
the production for that track is spot on
not every track needs a million bolly choir, or a modular synth backing orchestra...

Yeah it's fucking awesome as fuck; let's not pretend that it augured 10 more tracks like it that were cruelly withheld. It's obviously the bleeding edge of MCIS-era Pumpkins innovation.

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Still trying to understand what this statement means besides this song being one of the greatest Pumpkins tracks. If this barely produced, give me more bared produced Pumpkin tracks.

Yeah, I should have said: this barely GOT produced. Most of the TAFH tracks are underproduced; it works for a lot of them, but to speculate there were another three discs of MCIS-quality songs is ludicrous. We have so much from that era, and I think the reissues proved that even peak Billy didn't have much more to offer us than what we already had.

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

the old files, from back in the day: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1234F70ABE723E691FDFF72D1D2607 05A4B0D1BE&dn=Billy%27s%20Gravity%20Demos%20I
(there might not be any seeds right now)

see also: http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=372

Hey, just wanna give you props for your help. They worked! Actually the only one that didn't work on that thread was Mashed Potatoes, but I was able to grab the others. Cheers!

[Cool As Ice Cream]

you're welcome.

mashed potatoes contained a corrupt and "fixed" (the non-corrupt original version of the file, actually) sookie sookie.

the original set without this unecessary extra file is available on zomb torrents.
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=46668
so i stopped seeding the magnet torrent, and i guess it died.

[MyKeyZ]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

you're welcome.

mashed potatoes contained a corrupt and "fixed" (the non-corrupt original version of the file, actually) sookie sookie.

the original set without this unecessary extra file is available on zomb torrents.
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=46668
so i stopped seeding the magnet torrent, and i guess it died.

Sadly no matter what I do with zombtracker I can never get my account confirmed or any sort of e-mail from them. I've tried different accounts, resending the confirmation e-mail, and signing up new. Nothing.