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10-12-2018, 02:39 AM | #91 | |
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The sad thing is I don't think that Billy lacks a filter which all those R&R HoF inductees possess, I think Billy is genuinely a deep thinker, and the only reason those other rock and roll stars (or what have you) didn't stick their own feet in their mouths was because they barely had/have a controversial thought worth sharing to begin with. If you got most of them on Joe Rogan's podcast, they'd be like Jimmy Chamberlain, just surface depth optimism. They'll put any blame to be had on themselves. They'll have nothing but the kindest things to say about their contemporaries. Daryl Hall or sort of similar to Billy Corgan in this respect, he "goes there" in interviews, to the point where it might have been better for his career (in it's current state) had he not done the interview at all. If you listen to the Daryl Hall on Howard Stern interview, it's very Billyesque. Last edited by MonumentsRocks : 10-12-2018 at 02:45 AM. |
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10-12-2018, 05:55 AM | #92 | |
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What if Billy made it known to the R&R committee that he would not accept the award with D’arcy as the bassist and the committee only would recognize them with her? |
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10-12-2018, 11:34 AM | #93 |
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10-12-2018, 06:32 PM | #94 | |
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A lot of Pearl Jams lack of fame was also self-inflicted. Their reluctance to make music videos during an era when they were a necessity definitely hurt their growth... Impressively VS was still a HUGE hit anyways. Of course their taking on of Ticketmaster hurt momentum too. But yeah, Pearl Jam carried themselves with an integrity that Corgan didn't. They kept the core of the lineup in tact too which goes along way with staying in the fans good graces... The alienation of Dave from the HOF was definitely puzzling. I think you're right, I always assumed that was Eddie pulling the strings there... That does sorta hurt the integrity of the whole endeavor, but when you're as iconic as Vedder is, you get to call a lot of the shots. |
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10-12-2018, 06:36 PM | #95 |
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10-12-2018, 06:41 PM | #96 | |
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It really comes down to whether Gish/S.D./MCIS is a strong enough run to be inducted. I think eventually it will be. It just won't be for another 10 years from now. |
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10-12-2018, 06:43 PM | #97 | |
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how about some classic rock with goat vocals |
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10-12-2018, 06:45 PM | #98 | |
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there's a very good album between Machina 1 + 2 but that's been discussed 2 million times over |
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10-12-2018, 06:49 PM | #99 |
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I was just rocking my Vs C.D. a few days ago for the first time in forever and I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It's a fantastic album.
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10-12-2018, 06:52 PM | #100 | |
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The Everlasting Gaze, Let Me Give The World To You, Wound and Dross are all great songs... White Spyder, Saturnine, Crying Tree of Mercury are pretty good.. The rest is all very "meh" |
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10-12-2018, 06:54 PM | #101 |
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A lot of it sounds the same on Machina too... That's sorta the weird thing about it... Very bland for the most part. Almost like they were trying to go a Goo-Goo Dolls route and turning their backs on the grunge elements.
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10-12-2018, 06:54 PM | #102 |
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I just relistened to Roxy’s Avalon album ugh so good
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10-12-2018, 07:03 PM | #103 |
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10-12-2018, 07:04 PM | #104 |
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stop talking about the pumpkins let’s discuss Roxy and all make sure they get into the HoF
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10-12-2018, 07:04 PM | #105 |
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I’ll start. Eno/Roxy glam era vs Roxy pop era
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10-12-2018, 07:04 PM | #106 |
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I like Brian Eno a lot but don't really care about Roxy Music
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10-12-2018, 07:12 PM | #107 |
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10-12-2018, 07:15 PM | #108 |
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Someone recently described Ferry's aesthetic as "pretending to be a guy from the 50s who was from the future". A lot of the songs made more sense after that.
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10-12-2018, 07:35 PM | #109 |
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10-12-2018, 07:50 PM | #110 |
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ever gotten high and listened to music for airports?
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10-12-2018, 07:53 PM | #111 |
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10-12-2018, 08:42 PM | #112 |
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Avalon alone should get Roxy Music in. They set a tone that had a lot of imitators in the 80s. I also love the first album. Eno - Midas touch, enough said. Taking Tiger Mountain is an overlooked masterpiece.
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10-12-2018, 08:46 PM | #113 |
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10-12-2018, 09:09 PM | #114 |
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10-12-2018, 09:10 PM | #115 | |
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Am really high now and listening to Green World tho ahhh |
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10-12-2018, 09:28 PM | #116 |
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10-12-2018, 10:34 PM | #117 | |
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When talking about strong albums, record sales are the only objective measure, and Pearl Jam's Ten did outsell SD and MCIS, 10 mm to 4 mm, but I have a feeling if I looked at the sales of some of the other inductees, I certain they sold significantly less albums. Some of those inductees are only in there because prevailing opinion is that they're musical geniuses, and I think there is a strong argument to be made for Billy Corgan's musical genius, but again, because he goes on radio shows and says "I think I'm a genius" it probably repulses people, and they don't want to reward his outward ego with their awards. I guess the whole idea of an award to is shower praise upon gifted people who might not toot their horns much otherwise. Last edited by MonumentsRocks : 10-12-2018 at 10:39 PM. |
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10-12-2018, 10:46 PM | #118 |
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record sales tell you... how much a record sold
that's it |
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10-12-2018, 10:50 PM | #119 | |
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Adore and Machina were average albums. Doesn't mean that there isn't some great songs on each release, but as albums they're nothing to write home about. |
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10-12-2018, 10:53 PM | #120 |
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Like "Crestfallen" is seen as a fan-favorite across the community, but really, it's not very well written
Sounds rather bloated, really. And then there's tracks like this that sound dated as fuck |
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