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07-11-2017, 09:49 PM | #1 | |
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Pumpkins were supposed to film an MTV Unplugged set in July 1996
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07-11-2017, 09:58 PM | #2 |
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Yeah, yeah. Instead we got VH1 Storytellers. BFD.
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07-11-2017, 10:28 PM | #3 |
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Even in 1996 Bobo was not following through on promises.
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07-12-2017, 12:14 AM | #4 |
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Melvoin died July 12.
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07-15-2017, 08:49 PM | #5 |
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07-12-2017, 02:13 AM | #6 |
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07-12-2017, 03:27 AM | #7 |
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07-12-2017, 03:38 AM | #8 |
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...regarding the Chicago Symphony Orchestra: "Tonight, Tonight" is written in the key of G, performed on instruments tuned down a half-step so the actual pitch is G♭. In the original recording sessions, "Tonight, Tonight" was initially written in the key of C instead of G. However, since Corgan was unable to sing the song in C, he wrote a version during the Mellon Collie recording sessions to suit his range. The strings for the song were arranged by Billy Corgan & Audrey Riley, and recorded with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Corgan said that recording with a 30-piece string-section for the song "was probably one of the most exciting recording experiences I have ever had." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonigh..._Pumpkins_song) |
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07-12-2017, 05:28 AM | #9 |
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considering that the pumpkins' strong suit live was always the powerful drumming and guitaring, an unplugged set hampered by Cordman's shitty vocals would probably be nothing to write home about. no fucks given.
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07-12-2017, 12:52 PM | #10 | |
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07-13-2017, 04:01 PM | #11 | |
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07-12-2017, 07:30 AM | #12 |
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07-12-2017, 11:15 AM | #13 |
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I think he's trying to say something but with like videos instead of words man.
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07-12-2017, 12:40 PM | #14 |
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hole unplugged is stupid
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07-12-2017, 12:45 PM | #15 |
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07-12-2017, 02:13 PM | #16 |
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Hahaaa...that's hilarious. Rule #1: Don't piss off the sound guy. YouTube description: "Hole performing Celebrity Skin live at Don Hill's in NYC, Sept. 11, 2010. I was hired through the venue to record this show (including many others throughout that week) and was then left standing with a hard drive and an invoice no one seemed to want. Four years later I still have the files and not really any idea what to do with them. But I like to share. So here we are. What you are hearing are just Courtney's isolated vocal and guitar mics (with the obvious bleed from the rest of the band). I've muted everything else. EDIT: There seems to be some confusion about where/what the video footage is. It's a video of the same performance. It's just not my video. I did not shoot this video. I did not edit this video together. I have merely taken my audio recording of the same performance and synced it as best I could. Their edit is sloppy which is why it drifts in and out of sync. It's not about the video, anyway. It's there for context. The source video is here with their own audio: http://youtu.be/_HDMp8j7i1E Also, I've now uploaded a second video with my own mix of the full band here: http://youtu.be/13QNXpJugBc To address the most obvious, inevitable question that I will be asked...this is not fake. Whether you think she's the worst or this just makes her all the more "punk rock" is for you to decide. I'm merely presenting the facts as they are. Make of them what you will. UPDATE: If you want the rest of the show in the same manner you can download it for free here: https://www.oboom.com/SETT9F5K UPDATE: Here's the best proof of authenticity anyone could ask for. Another 2010 video shot in Paris of Courtney Love playing, effectively, the exact same thing: http://youtu.be/BG6xZlBUDD4 Cheers to pentagonoenllamas for pointing it out." |
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07-12-2017, 02:23 PM | #17 |
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07-12-2017, 02:41 PM | #18 |
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07-12-2017, 02:51 PM | #19 |
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then how do you explain the vocals
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07-12-2017, 02:55 PM | #20 |
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07-12-2017, 01:00 PM | #21 |
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thanks for posting, didn't know they did a black sessions set
july 4th london show is also excellent: |
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07-12-2017, 01:28 PM | #22 |
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god who could even care they're not even good plugged in
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07-12-2017, 02:24 PM | #23 |
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I love that there is nothing left to talk about with SP other than "things that never happened."
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07-12-2017, 05:44 PM | #24 |
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It's an isolated dry mix without any effects on her guitar and there is obviously another mix he could have made with her guitar how it really sounded with the effects on it.
So to be fair the video isn't being completely fair. |
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07-12-2017, 09:54 PM | #25 | |
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this seems allllmost real to me - although i sort of agree with turdlion it kinda has that shred video vibe. like, who would even bother making up this story and playing shitty guitar and bothering to sync it up so accurately? ....then again, it's the internet. so who knows. what bugged me, though, was that she stops playing and puts both her hands up in the air multiple times during the course of the song, and there is no feedbacking or even pickup noise whatsoever. that's what kills it for me, and makes me think it might be fake. we don't even need to assume she's too fucked up to bother with a volume knob, you can see she's not even reaching for it |
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07-13-2017, 01:36 AM | #26 | |
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just the fact that he has the isolated vocals as well vouches a ton for the guitar being real, though. even if that wasn't the real track, i can't imagine the actual one would sound much better; her playing looks really sloppy that paris video where she could barely play it was aug 26 2010, the iso one is sept 11 2010. sounds like she actually got worse over the two weeks |
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07-12-2017, 10:03 PM | #27 |
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i still have no explanation to the feedback thing (even tailoring a gate to be that accurate in a live setting would be a challenge), but - this is really much harder to deny. same thing from another concert
apparently it's real, folks what a fucking joke, this is mind boggling |
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07-12-2017, 10:35 PM | #28 |
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What I'm saying is that it wouldn't sound quite as shitty with fuzz or whatever on top.
I've heard isolated sources like this before and I'm certainly not calling her a talented guitar player but everyone knows you can get away with shitty technique when you're using effects. What you are hearing is completely dry with zero effects. No one in the club heard that except the soundman when he got home. This is not exactly an isolated incident. Plenty of bands would sound this terrible if you took the effects away from the front person. |
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07-13-2017, 02:39 PM | #29 | |
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07-12-2017, 10:36 PM | #30 |
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The reason you hear no feedback is because it's a 100% DRY SIGNAL
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