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Old 11-08-2014, 07:19 AM   #1
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Default MTAE Album Preview

http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/11576587/file.html

Some promising stuff here I think...

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:20 AM   #2
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I looooove Anaise!

the rest of the album sounds a lot better!

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:34 AM   #3
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Old 11-08-2014, 08:01 AM   #4
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Yeah thankfully there seems to be some diversity here! Run2Me sounds great!

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 08:12 AM   #5
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Where is this coming from?

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 08:39 AM   #6
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:17 AM   #7
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Run2me and Being Beige shouldn't be on the album.
Well, I'm looking forward listening to the other tracks.

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Old 11-08-2014, 09:39 AM   #8
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Not that short samples are a great indication of a song, but I can see how this relates to TBK, in the sense that the album sounds like a continuation of what he started to do musically with Oceania.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:43 AM   #9
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I agree there seems to be variety and some promising songs.

There are some new sounds in there too, which I'm happy about. I'm hoping MTAE comes across as Billy and Jeff exploring different textures and sounds and packing lots of movement into those short songs (like Happiness is a Warm Gun does).

Billy and Jeff seem to show craftsmanship in their music (e.g. stylized, dueling guitar solos on A Song for a Son or the well executed theremin solo on Quasar that Jeff did, or the more crafty guitar solos Billy does in United States). I could see them getting in the studio together and pushing themselves in these areas and making a great record.

From the preview it seems like this could sorta come true, with a moderating voice grounded in the music industry from Howard, which I'm wary of.

Anaise! has the word "lovers" in it for those that like to keep track.

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Old 11-08-2014, 10:02 AM   #10
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Yeah thankfully there seems to be some diversity here!
yeah i felt this was gonna be the case when one & all followed being beige, felt like the difference between those two tracks was gonna be indicative of the album as a whole, all other things considered as well

these do sound really great though, it kind of seems like.= being beige & i guess run2me plus maybe a couple of others are sort of modern-day 33-type songs that billy kinda pumped rock steroids into w howard or whatever, moreso b.b. but still

a lot of this does sound great to me though, first pumpkins album post-reunion that actually deserves the "yes man" hype? sounds like it might be

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:05 AM   #11
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people are still kinda bitchin bout bill vox in the one & all thread but those sound notably better to me on here as well

thanx for the samps don

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:06 AM   #12
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is this a lemonparty link?

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:07 AM   #13
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it's an admirably-crafted fake

kudo!

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:12 AM   #14
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Tiberius is Space Jam

BB is shit but sounds nice in that sample

Anaise has nice atmosphere. and a 'lovers'

One and All is nice too

Run2Me is interesting.

D+F is disappointing

Monuments is bad

Dorian has weird mixing

Anit-Hero is okay



Album is the best since Machina II, but it gets worse as it progresses

Or maybe the latter songs don't sound as good in 30 second samples

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:19 AM   #15
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Seriously stop stealing riffs from 1996 Billy

Stop living in the pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXf09ZJAAI&t=12m6s

Is that Space Jam? You know what I mean.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:34 AM   #16
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Run2Me and the track following both sound the best to me honestly

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:35 AM   #17
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man give the guy a break already i mean i'm all for criticizing artists and whatnot but pointing out some random silverfuck jam that he did as a means to reprimanding the guy is a bit much isn't it?

by this point i can't believe people are really trying to draw direct lines with sp1 & whatnot in 2014, after a 7 year break-off/break-up that ended (sort of) 7 years ago, like damn maybe start by hoping he trumps oceania first, huh?

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:37 AM   #18
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Oh and Anaise

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:40 AM   #19
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not bad.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:54 AM   #20
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BB is shit but sounds nice in that sample

Anaise has nice atmosphere. and a 'lovers'

One and All is nice too

Run2Me is interesting

D+F is disappointing

Monuments is bad

Dorian has weird mixing

Anit-Hero is okay



Album is the best since Machina II, but it gets worse as it progresses

Or maybe the latter songs don't sound as good in 30 second samples




how so? Honestly I'm curious what it is that makes people say that.

And do the "best since Machina II" sayers include Zwan and TFE?

Otherwise it means what? That Zeitgeist and Oceania had fewer good songs on it than MTAE, or that the worst MTAE song is better than the worst Zeitgeist song?

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:57 AM   #21
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Anaise could have been the single release, I'd like to hear Howard's reasoning why it wasn't and they chose Being Beige over it.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:18 AM   #22
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man give the guy a break already i mean i'm all for criticizing artists and whatnot but pointing out some random silverfuck jam that he did as a means to reprimanding the guy is a bit much isn't it?
I just think it's cheap as hell and fairly hypocritical that he stole 2+ riffs straight from the MCIS era for this new album, given how much he criticizes people for liking old stuff and wanting him to sound like SD again.

No

The first one, at least for me

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:24 AM   #23
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I just think it's cheap as hell and fairly hypocritical that he stole 2+ riffs straight from the MCIS era for this new album, given how much he criticizes people for liking old stuff and wanting him to sound like SD again.
i don't know he's seemed to have found a way, at least for himself or whatev, to kinda bring back that kind of sound/style and re-contextualize for a modern release or whatever, that was sort of his open admission around the oceania era right?

in any case after going back on the "i thought we'd just put it away and call it a day before it all got lame" thing i guess i don't put that much stock on whether or not he's being hypocritical or not by this point, seems like a neccesary evil or something like that. practically inevitable

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:27 AM   #24
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I keep hearing you guys say that the riffs are the same, but they really aren't.
they're similar, but the rhythms aren't the same and the notes aren't exactly the same either.

Tiberius is C - D - C - Eb - C - D - C - Eb - C - D - C - Eb - C - D - C - Eb
space jam is D! C - D - C - D - C - D - C - D
The added accent at the beginning of the space jam riff is completely missing from Tiberius and is what makes space jam riff really cool.


riffs are similar, but not the same.
and they're not original enough to really warrant 'copying the past'. it's a pretty basic pattern at hand here.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:43 AM   #25
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tiberius and anais! sound great, but the latter reuses a hook from being beige which is weird given their placement right next to each other. overall i'm intrigued. some of these 30 second samples sound more immediately engaging than either single...

i think i'll like this one.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:44 AM   #26
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is that a siamese type phasing effect on billy's voice in tiberius? he sounds awesome.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:29 PM   #27
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i'm tempted to listen now but i want it all to be a surprise when i listen in a month

seriously, where are these samples coming from? does this not qualify as a leak? that looks like the soundcloud player in the link, is that what it is?

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 01:31 PM   #28
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it sounds like 30 second amazon/itunes clips spliced into one track.

 
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Old 11-08-2014, 03:04 PM   #29
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what's the track listing?

 
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what's the track listing?
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Tiberius
Being Beige
Anaise
One and All
Run2Me
D+F
Monuments
Dorian
Anit-Hero
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