The firing of the SP.COM webmaster - Page 3

Kahlo · 05:31 PM

Hey, I hatted with the guy in question at the time and he talked about how obstinate Corgan was, and how he was generally dismissive of the site. I also think the look of the site was largely restricted by the piss poor Zeitgeist artwork, which made it eye rapingly awful to look at.

Are there any sites which show stats for sp.com over the last few years?

Eulogy · 02-23-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stumpycat

I STILL think that Billy is highly intelligent. The problem is that intelligence isn't necessarily coupled with emotional intelligence or practical reasoning. This guy thinks he's got the whole damned game figured out from a theoretical standpoint, and yet he seems to have some psychological barrier up which prevents him from assimilating the reality of what's right in front of his fucking face. He seems unable to reconcile the two...and I can only guess it's because of the defensive coping he's always engaging in. He places blame on absolutely everything except himself when things aren't turning out just as he thinks they should. And now he's blaming the webmaster.

It's clouding his brain and deluding his thoughts big time. Billy has to live in his own version of "truthiness" if you will.

So he's intelligent except in all of the ways that he's a complete dumbass.

I mean I guess musical talent is a component of intelligence but that's really all he has to work with, as far as I can tell. And he's not utilizing it very well anymore.

He seems like the kind of person who makes all these grand pronouncements that are either blatantly obvious to everyone or that have no basis in reality and are just pulled from his ass.

Not to mention his batshit conspiracy theories. He just does not seem very bright.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Pixies = Pavement = Oldies Act

If you think the Smashing Pumpkins aren't an "oldies act" then you are a lot stupider than your posts have shown so far.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 12:04 PM

look it's billy corgan!

stripes · 02-23-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1774/lolig3.jpg

MyOneAndOnly · 02-23-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

If you think the Smashing Pumpkins aren't an "oldies act" then you are a lot stupider than your posts have shown so far.

Stupider? yeah, ok. Whatever you say.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 01:37 PM

Haha, that is what a total dipshit would say.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i know it sucks when you're a crappy, clingy sp fan to know that there's a contemporary of SP that still has all their members and still makes music that pleases fans and critics alike.

sorry to bring up radiohead
or pearl jam
or nine inch nails
...or superchunk, shit.

even green day makes billy look retarded.

fluxequalsrad · 02-23-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Pixies = Pavement = Oldies Act

Frank Black + Malkmus's solo efforts = miles above anything Bollz has put out in the last 10 years.

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 03:16 PM

yeah but they were never famous. *SIGH*

Kahlo · 02-23-2011, 05:20 PM

This really made me laugh. It's a new t-shirt design by the former SP.com webmaster...

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile..._5654482_n.jpg

fluxequalsrad · 02-23-2011, 05:20 PM

"not a very creative person", what a smug prick. LOL @ webmaster shirt.

JokeyLoki · 02-23-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

This really made me laugh. It's a new t-shirt design by the former SP.com webmaster...

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile..._5654482_n.jpg

LOL. That's excellent.

Kahlo · 02-23-2011, 06:10 PM

So it turns out that he was never fired at all - exactly the same as Jimmy. Corgan made this up.

From the o-board

" Basically, PMM (Paul) stated this is the first time he heard he was "fired." His contract ended and both parties were interested in parting ways so they did. Billy asked for this and that, wanted to change things, somehow make money off the website to pay for PMM's salary, but all ideas PMM presented didn't take off and he couldn't do much because he needed content with which to run certain ideas.

Also, Billy once played "G.L.O.W." acoustic for Paul at his house and said something creepy when he was leaving about being such an evil genius ... something along the lines of "I really am something great, aren't I" but with that Mr. Burns look on his face with his hands steepled."

From Paul himself:

"Thanks for the support people, it's been a rough day and in the end, I hope none of you ever have 3 years of your life summed up in 2 very trite and self-serving sentences by the very person you worked day in and out to please. It's also humorous that the only reason you ever had and still have this place to even make a judgment call is because of yours truly. [Billy constantly tried to shut down the board, but PMM argued otherwise]

Keep fighting the good fight, I know I am, and loving it every day! "

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 06:13 PM

haha PMM should come over here after getting publically smeared by the guy. I remembered how we hated how negative we all were but HOLY SHIT WHO WAS RIGHT BRO

samuel redman · 02-23-2011, 06:20 PM

i actually had a good post but it slipped my mind

Kahlo · 02-23-2011, 06:20 PM

Seriously, how man rockstars attack their former webmasters??? I mean COME ON

Kahlo · 02-23-2011, 06:21 PM

COME ON COME ON COME ON (CAN YOU FEEL IT?)

Kahlo · 02-23-2011, 06:27 PM

WWRD?

What would Radiohead do guys???

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 06:35 PM

i'm usually amazed at how consistently billy corgan can surprise me with what an absolute bastard he is

Trotskilicious · 02-23-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

WWRD?

What would Radiohead do guys???

be popular and loved

Astur · 02-23-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i'm usually amazed at how consistently billy corgan can surprise me with what an absolute bastard he is

lol yeah at least you gotta give him credit for that one. he's a skilled entrepreneur of asshattery

ilikeplanets · 02-23-2011, 07:14 PM

I got the inside scoop on this one

PMM will get over it.

slunken · 02-24-2011, 12:47 AM

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...L/billy289.jpg

Starla · 02-24-2011, 03:45 AM

It's just like you Billy to blame your inadequacies on this poor webmaster guy. People don't go to your site because your music sucks. Ever think about that? You're still living in the past because people don't care about websites anymore. I just went and looked at it after not having seen it in months and now it really resembles what you are now, low quality. You're like these rich elite assholes who thinks they can order other people around and you think others are beneath you. I bet you treat waiters like shit in restaurants too. I really miss down to earth billy. What the fuck happen to you?

Trotskilicious · 02-24-2011, 03:48 AM

I dunno, he needs to get back to that place. He's got no fire or hunger. I'm sure all this bravado is to cover up what all of us can recognize, that his career should PROBABLY be around where his peers are at right now and not with the used refuse bin with the Toadies and Garbage.

Starla · 02-24-2011, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

Seriously, how man rockstars attack their former webmasters??? I mean COME ON

He's turned into such a piece of shit, I can barely listen to Adore anymore. Adore is about the only last bit of old SP I hold on to. Fuck him and his bullshit forever now.

Trotskilicious · 02-24-2011, 03:50 AM

of course billy doesn't play every place in texas that can be called a city so he's not quite toadies level haha well

garbage and everclear

Starla · 02-24-2011, 03:51 AM

The only thing I'm looking fwd this spring is new meat puppets. At least these guys don't act like assholes at every turn.

Trotskilicious · 02-24-2011, 03:51 AM

there's a lot more shit out there but fuck it i don't give a shit if you listen to it or not

02-23-2011, 11:00 AM	#61
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Hey, I hatted with the guy in question at the time and he talked about how obstinate Corgan was, and how he was generally dismissive of the site. I also think the look of the site was largely restricted by the piss poor Zeitgeist artwork, which made it eye rapingly awful to look at. Are there any sites which show stats for sp.com over the last few years? Last edited by Kahlo : 02-23-2011 at 05:31 PM.

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02-23-2011, 12:04 PM	#64
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	look it's billy corgan!

02-23-2011, 01:37 PM	#67
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	Haha, that is what a total dipshit would say.

02-23-2011, 03:16 PM	#70
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	yeah but they were never famous. SIGH

02-23-2011, 05:20 PM	#71
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	This really made me laugh. It's a new t-shirt design by the former SP.com webmaster... http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile..._5654482_n.jpg

02-23-2011, 05:20 PM	#72
fluxequalsrad Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 4,275	"not a very creative person", what a smug prick. LOL @ webmaster shirt.

02-23-2011, 06:10 PM	#74
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	So it turns out that he was never fired at all - exactly the same as Jimmy. Corgan made this up. From the o-board " Basically, PMM (Paul) stated this is the first time he heard he was "fired." His contract ended and both parties were interested in parting ways so they did. Billy asked for this and that, wanted to change things, somehow make money off the website to pay for PMM's salary, but all ideas PMM presented didn't take off and he couldn't do much because he needed content with which to run certain ideas. Also, Billy once played "G.L.O.W." acoustic for Paul at his house and said something creepy when he was leaving about being such an evil genius ... something along the lines of "I really am something great, aren't I" but with that Mr. Burns look on his face with his hands steepled." From Paul himself: "Thanks for the support people, it's been a rough day and in the end, I hope none of you ever have 3 years of your life summed up in 2 very trite and self-serving sentences by the very person you worked day in and out to please. It's also humorous that the only reason you ever had and still have this place to even make a judgment call is because of yours truly. [Billy constantly tried to shut down the board, but PMM argued otherwise] Keep fighting the good fight, I know I am, and loving it every day! "

02-23-2011, 06:13 PM	#75
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	haha PMM should come over here after getting publically smeared by the guy. I remembered how we hated how negative we all were but HOLY SHIT WHO WAS RIGHT BRO

02-23-2011, 06:20 PM	#76
samuel redman Apocalyptic Poster Location: You're 22 why aren't you free?You're 22 why aren't you free? you're mom and daddy's victory Posts: 4,874	i actually had a good post but it slipped my mind

02-23-2011, 06:21 PM	#78
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	COME ON COME ON COME ON (CAN YOU FEEL IT?)

02-23-2011, 06:27 PM	#79
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	WWRD? What would Radiohead do guys???

02-23-2011, 06:35 PM	#80
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i'm usually amazed at how consistently billy corgan can surprise me with what an absolute bastard he is

02-23-2011, 07:14 PM	#83
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	I got the inside scoop on this one PMM will get over it.

02-24-2011, 12:47 AM	#84
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...L/billy289.jpg

02-24-2011, 03:45 AM	#85
Starla ***** Posts: 15,731	It's just like you Billy to blame your inadequacies on this poor webmaster guy. People don't go to your site because your music sucks. Ever think about that? You're still living in the past because people don't care about websites anymore. I just went and looked at it after not having seen it in months and now it really resembles what you are now, low quality. You're like these rich elite assholes who thinks they can order other people around and you think others are beneath you. I bet you treat waiters like shit in restaurants too. I really miss down to earth billy. What the fuck happen to you?

02-24-2011, 03:48 AM	#86
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	I dunno, he needs to get back to that place. He's got no fire or hunger. I'm sure all this bravado is to cover up what all of us can recognize, that his career should PROBABLY be around where his peers are at right now and not with the used refuse bin with the Toadies and Garbage.

02-24-2011, 03:50 AM	#88
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	of course billy doesn't play every place in texas that can be called a city so he's not quite toadies level haha well garbage and everclear

02-24-2011, 03:51 AM	#89
Starla ***** Posts: 15,731	The only thing I'm looking fwd this spring is new meat puppets. At least these guys don't act like assholes at every turn.