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03-31-2008, 02:06 PM | #121 |
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what's wrong with the "hey guys i have no fucking idea and neither do you" option.
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03-31-2008, 02:17 PM | #122 |
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03-31-2008, 02:19 PM | #123 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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our god is an awesome god!
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03-31-2008, 06:04 PM | #124 |
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It would seem this is a nice neutral ground, but it's a point seldom used when people are discussing the massive unknown of the idea and origin of the Big Bang compared to when people are discussing the existence of a God.
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03-31-2008, 06:08 PM | #125 |
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the big bang theory is based on empirical evidence.
meh i can't bring myself to write this |
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03-31-2008, 06:11 PM | #126 |
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03-31-2008, 06:12 PM | #127 |
Minion of Satan
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Sorry to distress you so badly, but could you kindly point me toward some empirical evidence of the Big Bang's origins other than "The Universe is expanding outward?" I don't doubt the existence of the event, but it just seems kind of unbalanced to assume how something happened that we don't have written record or a witness of without unequivocal positive evidence.
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03-31-2008, 06:14 PM | #128 |
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yeah big bang theory is 100% superstition and scientific make believe to justify stem cell research and eugenics. hail allah.
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03-31-2008, 06:15 PM | #129 |
Minion of Satan
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Come on, man.
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03-31-2008, 06:15 PM | #130 |
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try the internet
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03-31-2008, 06:19 PM | #131 |
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yeah whatever who cares if big bang is kinda stupid when you think about it god is only like a bazillion time stupider.
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03-31-2008, 06:28 PM | #132 |
Minion of Satan
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After searching, I found this chart, which indicates that we don't really know what the hell 95% of the Universe is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...omposition.jpg |
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03-31-2008, 06:29 PM | #133 |
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so you're saying the big bang created god and also the rock that god couldn't lift
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03-31-2008, 06:33 PM | #134 |
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when faced with an impenetrable mystery:
science: "I don't know." religion: "I don't know...so it must have been an all-knowing, all-powerful being who cares about what we do and say, listening to our prayers, steering the course of human events, who sent his son to die for our sins, etc. amirite?" |
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03-31-2008, 06:34 PM | #135 |
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03-31-2008, 07:53 PM | #136 |
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03-31-2008, 07:53 PM | #137 |
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I mean that too this isn't one of my posts for the sake of making a stupid comment. Even though it is largely stupid.
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03-31-2008, 08:58 PM | #138 | |
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im genuinely curious, im not setting some trap or something. |
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03-31-2008, 09:01 PM | #139 |
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i dont know how you even compare these two at all. somebody said it already, but one is grounded in empirical evidence, and the other is, at best, idle speculation. the idea of the big bang isnt one that scientists randomly chose or something, its what the available evidence and our current understanding points to. its perfectly reasonable to believe that, and faily strongly.
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03-31-2008, 09:04 PM | #140 | |
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All matter existing inside of a particle and then exploding sounds about as plausible as someone stating a belief in a higher being. You just can't see past your own biases to admit such. |
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03-31-2008, 09:10 PM | #141 |
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03-31-2008, 09:24 PM | #142 |
Minion of Satan
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According to the belief that empirical evidence (something that can be successfully tested in a controlled environment) is the basis of truth. |
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03-31-2008, 09:41 PM | #143 | |
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all kinds of things are counterintuitive or extremely hard to understand. but one of the great things about science is that it is smarter than we are. nobody really understands quantum phsyics, they just know through the evidence that it works, and works phenomenally well. it is science that has given us this tool kit to work around our own limitations. |
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03-31-2008, 09:46 PM | #144 |
Minion of Satan
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your beliefs are founded on faith (mere willingness to believe). you dont have the right to even enter into such a discussion as this, let alone criticize the scientific method.
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03-31-2008, 10:04 PM | #145 |
Minion of Satan
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Way to miss the point of my post, sleeper.
Your name is surprisingly appropriate considering this is the only type of discussion (or, more accurately, debate) that you enter into on this board. |
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03-31-2008, 10:07 PM | #146 |
Minion of Satan
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03-31-2008, 10:16 PM | #147 |
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mohammed....
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03-31-2008, 10:18 PM | #148 |
Minion of Satan
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Doesn't research require witnesses to be verified?
In the traditional sense, anyway. If you're referring to hypothetico-deductive research, then yes, evidence can be acquired in a relative sense, but not in the fullest manner possible (unequivocally, in other words.) Hypotheses should not be the basis for any real kind of knowledge. |
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03-31-2008, 10:19 PM | #149 |
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03-31-2008, 10:31 PM | #150 | |
Minion of Satan
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yeah, bizarre how he brought up how there arent any witnesses to the big bang, or, he even thought to specify, any who wrote anything down. i mean, what the fuck? this makes me dizzy |
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