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12-13-2011, 12:40 PM | #1 |
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what job should I take?
how retarded am i to come to this place seeking career advice.
here goes. i've played guitar since i was 16, and for many years kind of thought someday i'll get serious and form a band and shit. but, as life went on i saw that regardless of how good i am (and i wasn't bad at all), chances for success, surely one that would make me a living, were extremely scarce... so i went to study what i thought was the next best thing, which is sound engineering (hold on to the unemployment jokes please). studied that for two years, got an internship in the best studio around. got virtually abused there, and for no good reason. more than anything else, i was a lackey, and although they liked me and wanted me to stay and even suggested that i'd record a low-profile record by myself, i kind of saw where it was going, which was nowhere, and i still wasn't getting paid a penny for 10-12 hour days (this is about 3.5 months time) so i just said fuck it and moved on. worked a couple sound-guy jobs and lately, been unemployed for like 2-3 months. the unemployed sound guy, so embarrassing anyway throughout all this time i was (and am) constantly questioning if sound engineering is even the right thing for me to do with my life... i mean, you have to chase a gig after gig after gig. some guys can handle that but i can't, really. im piss fucking poor, i can't afford this, i need some security. besides, it's one thing to make your own songs sound awesome, and a whole other thing to do various tiring chores that are mostly grey and unrewarding. anyway my frantic searching for a job blew up in my face time after time and now all at once i've got two places willing to hire me and they totally collide with each other. i take the red pill, i stay in the sound business, i go to work in the Big Brother broadcast control room, pay is good, it's an 8 minute drive to there from my house, but the show ends in 3 months and essentially i have to rely on my bosses being so pleased with me, that they'll give me another job in one of their studios. i take the blue pill, i go work for Intel, 4 days a week with 12 hour shifts (working in the clean room as an operator) and having four days off. pays better. about a half hour drive away. more 'secure' and stable. but also it feels like selling my soul to a bunch of procedure-following nutsacks. im fairly sure i won't be working in the sound field in 10 years anyway, but i do feel like i've only been out there a year, haven't really given it a real shot, and this is the first REAL job i'm being offered, and that could promote me (then again, it could also get me nowhere. life's playful like that). with Intel i'll be able to get promoted if i do my job well and stay long enough, I think. it's much more secure, it pays great and overall conditions are excellent. the job itself, being an operator in the fancy clean room, is not so fancy though... but i suppose it's manageable, like any other job. i know this is serious tldr material right there but i am so deep in this i can't really see things straight. maybe one of you guys has a better perspective. |
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12-13-2011, 12:44 PM | #2 |
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what do the two jobs entail exactly? which job, content wise, are you more excited about? wtf is a clean room?
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12-13-2011, 12:52 PM | #3 |
Braindead
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job interviews don't usually tell you that much about what actual work you're going to be doing...
purely content wise, the Big Brother control room job excites me much more. it's basically having access to the house, making sure the mics are right every now and then, operating the broadcast (i.e, someone talks, open their channel, mute what doesn't need to be heard at that particular moment, some editing now and then, etc). the clean room is this hyper sterile area in Intel factories. i'm basically in charge of a certain manufacturing aspect of microchips. they use big ass silicone plates and they they print microchips on it with all sorts of advanced machinery. i'll be the guy operating it. it's pretty much like working in any other factory or assembly line, just with more prestige, a very clean environment and great conditions. the work itself doesn't excite me , BUT... |
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12-13-2011, 01:24 PM | #4 |
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i think job interviews should be a great place to get to know what actual work you'll be doing... if not that's the part where they ask "do you have any questions?"
anyway, is it time for you to get 'comfortable' with your life? i'd take the job that seems more fun. |
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12-13-2011, 01:40 PM | #5 |
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if you can support yourself with the sound job do that
you can go back to microprocessors later seems like you've actually set yourself up nicely for a dream job with a fallback capitalist whore gig. |
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12-13-2011, 01:41 PM | #6 |
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i mean seriously though don't like CASH IN
whatever you do don't do that. |
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12-13-2011, 01:58 PM | #7 |
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12-13-2011, 02:00 PM | #8 |
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no
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12-13-2011, 02:24 PM | #9 | |
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on the other hand, the Big Brother thing is also a pretty singular opportunity... this indecision is over me like a ghost for at least the past year and a half... this is like the gods pointing and laughing at me. it feels like i have to choose one path and whatever i choose the other gets cancelled out. tbh im kind of tempted to cash in (really appropriate terminology btw) |
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12-13-2011, 02:26 PM | #10 |
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i really doubt that you're closing the door on a career as a microchip engineer by passing intel up
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12-13-2011, 02:29 PM | #11 |
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fuck me if i know how i neglected to mention this, but both jobs have approved me and expect me to begin work around january 1st.
by the time i got an answer from Intel i went on with my job search and things happened simultaneously. so i have to keep one and let the other go |
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12-13-2011, 02:33 PM | #12 |
huh
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are you ok with the prospect of being unemployed in three months
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12-13-2011, 02:36 PM | #13 |
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not really. im the anal type and uncertainty, not to mention being broke and stressed for a job with impending rent and payments, is hard on me
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12-13-2011, 02:37 PM | #14 |
huh
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well put that on the con side for the control room job then, yeah?
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12-13-2011, 02:47 PM | #15 |
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don't be practical! be careless!
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12-13-2011, 03:12 PM | #16 |
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12-13-2011, 03:26 PM | #17 |
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how big are your chances of being picked up again after the show is over? i mean in the sound-guy world, you said its basically jumping from gig to gig, but does that ALWAYS happen? do you know anyone who's attained a comfy spot somewhere like that?
big brother does sound more exciting, and more what you know.... would you rather be unemployed with another notch on your sound guy resume in 3 months, or be pushing a button on an assembly line for intel? is the difference in pay enough to shift your feelings? i dunno...i think i'd go with big brother. 12 hour shifts are a bitch. even when you get 4 days off...your 4 days on will ******* nothing but working, commute, eat, sleep. shit's tough these days, man. thats a hard spot. but kudos landing 2 good jobs! it could be worse |
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12-13-2011, 03:29 PM | #18 |
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personally, i would go with the intel job.
for me this kinda conflict is more like what do you want to do - mix work and play (sound job) or keep them separate (intel). i like to mix them but with the uncertainty you are presenting with i'd more likely go to intel |
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12-13-2011, 03:32 PM | #19 |
huh
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12-13-2011, 03:33 PM | #20 |
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i say go for the sound guy job. work really fucking hard for 3 months. like really work to make a splash and try to get picked up again. i think this is your chance to really give it a shot and maybe really make something out of it. it sounds like this is something you LIKE to do and not HAVE to do. usually when you like what you do, you're much better at it and people notice.
maybe it wont work out. maybe you'll be shit out of luck in a few months struggling for rent. but you gave it a shot. at least you wont be at intel sitting there for 12 hours a day wondering about "what-ifs". |
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12-13-2011, 03:36 PM | #21 |
huh
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isn't there a chance though that at some point down the road, a similar gig could open up that doesn't have a three month limitation?
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12-13-2011, 03:41 PM | #22 |
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that's what im talking about.
it sounds like your only sound job so far was shitty (not your fault). this is a real job with real opportunities after it. you might not know what they are now, but you wont know until you try. |
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12-13-2011, 03:43 PM | #23 | ||
Braindead
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but on the other hand, due to various political reasons (too long to get into that now) TV in israel is really dying. the big companies are in financial difficulties and one of the two national channels is about to close down in what seems like a matter of months. this has an effect on me, because A) dying TV = less work for everybody in the TV industry and B)more guys more competent and experienced than a newbie like me competing for jobs. all in all, it could happen, but it's at least 50-50 and there certainly could be a situation that even if i do my job very well things won't work out in my favor. Quote:
but as you said, 12 hour days mean a work-eat-sleep cycle with little else in between. |
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12-13-2011, 03:44 PM | #24 |
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del
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12-13-2011, 03:44 PM | #25 |
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man you are way too smart for that username
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12-13-2011, 03:45 PM | #26 |
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by the way most people i know who have done the four day work week thing say that they're so fucking exhausted by it that the three days off are practically a joke
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12-13-2011, 03:48 PM | #27 |
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how old are you btw OP? sorry if you said and i missed it just wondering
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12-13-2011, 03:49 PM | #28 |
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48 hours in 4 days does not sound that bad... but that depends heavily on how monotonous it is, i guess. and i get the impression the intel job would be pretty monotonous. is that true?
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12-13-2011, 03:50 PM | #29 |
Braindead
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12-13-2011, 03:51 PM | #30 |
huh
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eh, just own it.
i'm named after a tool song. (which i still enjoy) |
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