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Old 09-24-2019, 06:04 PM   #31
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The subtext of every single thread on Netphoria, ever, is "what is the best The Smashing Pumpkins song"

If we settled that question, the board would implode so forcefully that the shockwave would ripple back through time and cause this place to have never existed at all

My vote is Mayo

 
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:37 PM   #32
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Rocket > Hummer/Mayo/Soma




DEEL WID IT

 
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Old 09-24-2019, 08:05 PM   #33
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Mayo is my personal fave

Best song by corgan though is probably, objectively speaking, widow wake my mind

No other artist could have achieved such a thoroughly offensive aural atrocity. It’s Pure Art

 
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Old 09-24-2019, 08:19 PM   #34
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so it seems like mayo or hummer or porcelina at this point

 
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:45 PM   #35
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Not understanding all the love for Mayo. For me it's gotta be Soma or Geek USA

 
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Old 09-25-2019, 01:22 AM   #36
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but the answer is ruby, live spring 1996, with the extended outro
Correct.

But the consensus always ends up being Soma.

 
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Old 10-14-2019, 11:20 PM   #37
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Identify

 
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:09 AM   #38
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Holy shit, it's aztec

 
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:39 AM   #39
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Identity is the best song by the Pumpkins. It's better than Mayonnaise or One and Two.

 
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:46 PM   #40
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I'd probably consider 3 criteria of quality and timelessness:

1. Sound
2. Lyrics
3. If it can be listened to anytime, regardless of one's mood

Songs like Soma, Ruby, Porcelina and For Martha are certainly top-tier, but I don't know if they meet the 3rd criteria. I feel like I have to be in kind of a down mood to want to listen to them.

For me, then, that leaves the following 3:

-Mayonaise
-Geek USA
-Disarm

And Disarm only barely meets the 3rd criteria for me. It's a sad song, but for whatever reason, it's just so good, I can listen to it anytime, anywhere.

Geek USA has always been the song I've thought was the band's best ever. The riff is incredible, the dynamic changes are hyper creative, and that ending slow-jam "She really loves to break" part is the perfect exclamation point.

But if I were to choose which song is universally the best, meaning, it transcends even what I think, I'd have to say Mayonaise. It's got the classic, defining Pumpkins creamy fuzz sound, great emotional vocals, lyrics that anyone can relate to and identify with, a simple yet perfectly structured solo, and I also love that Billy and James wrote it together.

So my vote: Mayonaise.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 12:09 AM   #41
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Songs like Soma, Ruby, Porcelina and For Martha are certainly top-tier, but I don't know if they meet the 3rd criteria. I feel like I have to be in kind of a down mood to want to listen to them.

But if I were to choose which song is universally the best, meaning, it transcends even what I think, I'd have to say Mayonaise. It's got the classic, defining Pumpkins creamy fuzz sound, great emotional vocals, lyrics that anyone can relate to and identify with, a simple yet perfectly structured solo, and I also love that Billy and James wrote it together.

So my vote: Mayonaise.
completely agree on all this

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 01:34 AM   #42
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Yeah I still exist, sort of. There will never be a consensus on this and i wasn’t serious about identify (though I do think it’s one of his best) but yeah ruby soma porcelina mayo always get mentioned. My friend put on mcis the other day and the ones that got to me the most were jellybelly, hinw, 33, and ruby. I like medellia and marquis a lot. Obscured, Glynis... I couldn’t pick one. Rocket was the first one I really loved and that made me want to buy their album... blah blah

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Old 10-16-2019, 02:55 AM   #43
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Identify > Spiteface

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:47 AM   #44
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:34 AM   #45
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:10 AM   #46
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Identify > Spiteface
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:59 AM   #47
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Identify > I Tend to Cry

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 02:10 PM   #48
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The 10 best SP songs, not open for debate:

Mayonaise
Hummer
Soma
Geek USA
Drown
Starla
Obscured
Whir
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Stand Inside Your Love

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:20 PM   #49
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Whir should’ve got airplay. Great song

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:28 PM   #50
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The 10 best SP songs, not open for debate:

Mayonaise
Hummer
Soma
Geek USA
Drown
Starla
Obscured
Whir
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Stand Inside Your Love


geek over rocket u trippin bro

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:46 PM   #51
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a) he never specified whether or not it was in order
b) Geek is for sure better than Rocket you fuckin' Campbellspawn

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:07 PM   #52
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not in order and ye, geek > rocket, all day long.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:22 PM   #53
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Rocket isn't even on the list

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:23 PM   #54
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And it fuckin' well should be

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:55 PM   #55
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No. It's a good song but not top 10 worthy.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:14 PM   #56
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:43 PM   #57
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not in order and ye, geek > rocket, all day long.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:43 PM   #58
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No. It's a good song but not top 10 worthy.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 09:13 PM   #59
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Whats the best live version of ruby? The MSG one from September 96 is pretty good imo.

 
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:53 AM   #60
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all of them

 
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