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12-18-2017, 03:11 PM | #31 |
Minion of Satan
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also i could really do without spaceboy. i've always thought that song was too long and boring. it would even be boring on PI.
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12-18-2017, 05:00 PM | #32 | |
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That's weird. Lots of people talk about Bodies like it's a great song. I think it's the worst song on Mellon Collie and pretty dull apart from the D words interlude thingy (or whatever the fuck you'd call it).
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12-18-2017, 05:00 PM | #33 |
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eh.
both albums lack mystery. something machina and pisces had in spades. |
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12-18-2017, 05:02 PM | #34 |
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adore does sound dated. i like the record and some of the songs are among my favorites (blank page, for martha, shame...) but honestly it just reeks of corgan's failed attempt at blending the pumpkins with the pop and electronica-oriented genres that the mainstream was beginning to center around while rock'n'roll was slowly dying. and this counts mostly for the electronica-influenced part of the album - that's where the production sounds very dated.
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12-18-2017, 05:59 PM | #35 |
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No, SD and MCIS deserve the praise
The fuck is this? |
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12-18-2017, 06:42 PM | #36 | |
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12-18-2017, 06:46 PM | #37 | |
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I'll get pelted with eggs for saying this, but I think even a song like Hummer is grossly overrated. I don't wanna sound like I'm shitting on Siamese Dream though. I do concur that it's one of the best albums of the 90's... Just perhaps a little overrated among the Netphoria faithful. |
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12-18-2017, 06:48 PM | #38 |
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the outro to hummer is one of the best things they ever recorded
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12-18-2017, 06:49 PM | #39 |
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12-18-2017, 06:50 PM | #40 |
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pro tip: if you ever want to be a moderator, you have to agree to this
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12-18-2017, 06:50 PM | #41 |
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You know, I'm not saying they don't. I just thought it was a question that was worth asking and perhaps debating.
The honest truth is that even the most celebrated and legendary albums have their blemishes, so I mean the idea of a "perfect" album is almost impossible to find. Even Weezers Blue album which is one of my favorite pop albums of the 90's has a couple tracks that I could do without and it's only 10 songs long... Most notably Surf Wax America... I Never understood why people like that song so much. |
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12-18-2017, 06:52 PM | #42 |
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12-18-2017, 07:27 PM | #43 |
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12-18-2017, 08:03 PM | #44 |
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Shut the fuck up, fuzzy
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12-18-2017, 09:11 PM | #45 |
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sigh
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12-18-2017, 09:22 PM | #46 |
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when are people going to realize that their "Mellon Collie single disc" albums are all different and the fact that no one can actually agree on one is glaring evidence that putting it out as a double-album was the right choice
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12-18-2017, 09:22 PM | #47 |
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thing had enough b-sides as it was
might as well have been a triple disc, lolz |
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12-18-2017, 10:04 PM | #48 |
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12-18-2017, 10:10 PM | #49 |
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I found an orange SD LP today. Christmas gift to myself. No regrets.
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12-18-2017, 10:32 PM | #50 |
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12-19-2017, 12:41 AM | #51 | |
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only other ones i can come up with are the solo (that they play as a dual solo) live right before the ending ("she really likes to break..." etc) part of Geek USA, and the solo to the "let the sadness come again..." etc part of soma. and i still think hummer outro is better. it's completely immersive and beautiful. it's like being in a cleansing morning storm, it's perfect |
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12-19-2017, 12:54 AM | #52 | |
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12-19-2017, 12:56 AM | #53 |
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Just listened to Gravity Demos again. Jackboot is some uber-badassery.
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12-19-2017, 12:58 AM | #54 |
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12-19-2017, 10:02 AM | #55 |
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12-19-2017, 10:34 AM | #56 | |
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I mean, of course all the albums are overrated by the hardcore fans, what do you expect? that's just the way people are, you can't really debate much over that. i mean like, i'm sure if you went to a tool forum and tried to argue among their hardcore fans how their music isn't pure art and the transcendental spiritual uber-music that they think it is (i have nothing against the music itself btw, just the fans), I'm pretty sure you'd get bashed for it. i don't think it's just siamese dream and mellon collie that get put on a pedestal around here, as far as i've seen, all 88-00 SP material is overpraised around here. that's normal, why is it worth making a thread about that? did you just now have the epiphany that fans tend to overrate their favorite band's stuff? Last edited by panda show : 12-19-2017 at 10:42 AM. |
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12-19-2017, 11:35 AM | #57 |
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an interesting question that this thread sparks, though, is how things could have played out for the pumpkins in terms of merely different releases.
their discography could have gone any number of other ways, and in an alternate universe it's sd+pisces making up the double record in their catalogue, and MCIS was indeed trimmed and released as a power-cd. i wonder how that would affect the pumpkins' trajectory man that would have been a badass record |
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12-19-2017, 11:56 AM | #58 |
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I remember being a manic depressive gay teen in the early 90's smoking pot and thinking deep trip'n out on the melody and poetic lyrics of corrigin and the smashing pumpkins power distortion and noise rock insanity brain crisis buildups of explosive endorphin release contagious smiles like a tsunami of warmth happiness on a Christmas day but the only problem I'm Jewish! -Kirby-
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12-19-2017, 12:46 PM | #59 |
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Panda show are you the siamese twin of cool as ass cream?
Srs question |
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12-19-2017, 12:48 PM | #60 | |
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