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02-18-2014, 12:01 AM | #61 | |
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02-18-2014, 12:05 AM | #62 |
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The reality is that independent voters are where the money is at. Paul's "libertarianism" is pretty toned down and as long as people like Ted Cruz are around he looks like a moderate. Without Ted Cruz, yes, he looks too much like Goldwater (at best!) and is therefore unelectable. But if he is crossing the isle and making friends with GOP leadership too, then they can put their machine to work on him and get him in.
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02-18-2014, 12:08 AM | #63 |
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02-18-2014, 02:35 AM | #64 | |
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02-18-2014, 02:36 AM | #65 |
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gah too drunk to post
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02-18-2014, 11:04 AM | #66 | |
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the idea that there's some kind of great american political "middle" that rationally evaluates candidates regardless of party affiliation and then votes accordingly is pure fiction. Paul is preaching strictly to Paultards and teabaggers, which are nothing but a minority of the GOP |
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02-18-2014, 01:20 PM | #67 |
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speaking from a strictly technical standpoint, independent voters usually fluctuate. like if X party is unpopular most of them will almost always identify as "independent"
that's why it was so lulzy last election when romney people kept trumpeting that they had the independent vote on lockdown |
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02-18-2014, 02:06 PM | #68 |
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I was pretty sure some of you would be libertarians with all that cop hate
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02-18-2014, 04:54 PM | #69 | |
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02-18-2014, 04:58 PM | #70 |
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I don't believe this is true. The total number of registered democrats is much higher than the number of registered republicans. General elections are almost always within a few percentage points of each other though, meaning that a large number of voters not registered with either major party almost always vote republican. So it's true that Romney had most independents on lockdown. it's because they are republican voters who don't want to identify with the party. I'm not sure what the breakdown was in more distant elections, but in both Obama elections you had far more registered repubs cross lines and vote for him than registered dems vote for McCain or Romney, but both elections were still fairly close in raw vote count, which strengthens my argument that the bulk of independent voters never vote democrat anyway and are not the golden snitch
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02-18-2014, 08:41 PM | #71 |
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Rand Paul is a fucking moron who doesn't really think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was Constitutional (an opinion i imagine he shares with jczeroman).
He might appeal to the same young idiots that Ron Paul appealed to (yes there were dumb young people that voted for Obama too, no need to point that fact out to me). |
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02-18-2014, 09:48 PM | #72 |
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at least one major candidate will want to legalize weed
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02-18-2014, 10:04 PM | #73 | |
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i think we're saying the same thing. i'm just saying it moves around from time to time.. (i'm talking about poll samples though. i don't know how "registered" party affiliation plays out) that also explains why the sampling can be very skewed toward one side and still be viable. for example the polls in 2012 predicting an obama win had like, 45% dems, 25% republicans and 30% independents -- and was still perfectly legit, simply because "democrats" were the more popular side to be on at that time. bandwagon effect anyway, what i'm saying is there aren't many honest to god independents Last edited by Order 66 : 02-18-2014 at 10:35 PM. |
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02-18-2014, 10:10 PM | #74 |
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02-18-2014, 10:16 PM | #75 |
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lift blunts, clan in the front METHOD MAN '16
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02-18-2014, 10:17 PM | #76 | |
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edit: i guess you meant republican pundits, Last edited by Future Boy : 02-18-2014 at 10:36 PM. |
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02-18-2014, 10:29 PM | #77 |
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nate silver was the only person worth paying attention to
eventually we're just going to have nate pick the winner based on his statistical model |
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02-18-2014, 10:35 PM | #78 |
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fuck nate silver
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02-18-2014, 10:37 PM | #79 | ||
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a few seconds of googling gave me this Quote:
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02-18-2014, 10:38 PM | #80 |
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basically he's a wishy washy phony piece of shit who is trying to pander to both sides.
fuck him. |
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02-18-2014, 10:41 PM | #81 |
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do i need to say again that i know he's not the only one that does that
probably |
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02-18-2014, 10:42 PM | #82 |
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little does he know i didn't have any ambition to begin with
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02-18-2014, 10:43 PM | #83 |
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and i don't think it reduces IQ, maybe while you're using it.
where's Dr. Bongwater to set the record straight. |
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02-18-2014, 11:20 PM | #84 |
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there is some legitimate evidence which suggests, but does not prove, that chronic marijuana use before the age of about 18 can dampen brain development.
if you are talking about grown adults, there is not an iota of serious scientific evidence anywhere that it lowers IQ or makes you stupider in any quantifiable way |
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02-18-2014, 11:27 PM | #85 |
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I mean if you read the studies paid for by the Reagan administration you will find "evidence" for that sort of thing, but the way they accrued this evidence was by doing shit like strapping down chimps and pumping weed smoke into their lungs through gas masks until they had brain damage from lack of oxygen...
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02-18-2014, 11:36 PM | #86 |
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i'm definitely stupider right now, and i'm loving it
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02-19-2014, 01:38 PM | #87 |
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its supposed to be "safe" but explain all those dead potheads, like willie nelson
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02-19-2014, 03:51 PM | #88 | |
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02-20-2014, 03:03 AM | #89 |
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haahaha the only comment is great
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02-20-2014, 08:41 PM | #90 |
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No way in hell republicans win without a drastic change of approach
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