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02-08-2021, 06:36 AM | #6031 |
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Eccentric old dude is a more marketable and relatable aesthetic than androgynous-fester-god.
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02-08-2021, 06:49 AM | #6032 |
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Its possible he / they had started demoing a guitar based album. But then with lockdown they realised they couldn't record it the way they wanted to, so made a different one (Cyr) instead.
So maybe Vol3 was actually Vol2 and vice verse. |
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02-08-2021, 07:01 AM | #6033 |
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Maybe those who've heard it say it's one of the best things he's ever produced, but the fans didn't want it, so it's... just sitting there.
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02-08-2021, 11:33 AM | #6034 | |
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My optimistic take would be that maybe some of the heavier songs would be saved for the MCIS/Machina sequel album. The more realistic take would be that, as usual, Billy tarnished decent songs by thinking he was "edgy" and taking them in the direction they ended up with on CYR. It would certainly fit his MO on albums since the 2000s. Also, he's also mentioned on Instagram and in various interviews how at least a few of these songs started off as heavy riffs. |
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02-08-2021, 05:04 PM | #6035 |
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i honestly don't even give a fuck about heavy pumpkins. he's somewhat proven he can write heavy guitar stuff. i want more stuff like the hummer outro
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02-08-2021, 05:23 PM | #6036 | |
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A few of the Cyr tracks are established as having been more DFN/Monuments era leftovers though. I wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped the guitar heavy stuff when they decided to do a "contemporary-sounding" record, or put it on hold for the next one. There's lots of precedent for stuff like that happening with things like STRTJ or LMGTWTY. He always, always opens his mouth too soon about the ideas that come into his mind, things he wants to do. Currently we're at "Shiny Vol.3" as some sort of psychedelic rock experience and the MCIS/Machina followup...I feel like if that's not the guitar-heavy album - because I'm positive they'll both be combined into one project - nothing will be :/ |
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02-08-2021, 08:53 PM | #6037 |
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next album's going to be actually good and most of you aren't going to like it because you're fucking losers
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02-08-2021, 08:54 PM | #6038 |
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jk i love you all dearly
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02-08-2021, 08:54 PM | #6039 |
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yes, even you
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02-08-2021, 09:26 PM | #6040 |
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Thank you.
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02-08-2021, 10:05 PM | #6041 |
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For the love of ffs wish he’d just get in a room with some pedals with jim and james and just jam. Just give us a loose record of jams, just crank it out. If he wants to honk into an sm58 go for it, just put it below the music and you’ll like the way u look
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02-08-2021, 10:13 PM | #6042 |
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Does he ever talk about the music he's listening to / whether he does any of that?
(It doesn't count if there's a business relationship.) |
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02-08-2021, 10:29 PM | #6043 |
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Judging by how badly Cyr sold he should just quit
Nobody cares Billy |
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02-08-2021, 11:46 PM | #6044 | |
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02-09-2021, 12:07 AM | #6045 | |
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bring the RAWK billy or at least, you know, shit that doesn't fucking BLOW DOGGY DICKS |
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02-09-2021, 12:08 AM | #6046 |
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hootie hoo!!!!!!!!!!
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02-09-2021, 12:09 AM | #6047 | |
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unfortunately you still get a couple "neandertals" calling shit like SD & Adore dated which quite honestly is grounds enough to be sent away to a special island and, quite frankly, done away with in a very special way! |
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02-09-2021, 07:36 AM | #6048 |
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Abso-fucking-lutely. There's been barely any of that since the reunion. *Some* of the Zeitgeist extra tracks and the odd bit of IAGW hinted at that. But there's been none of that clean-delay-Strat-noodling that we know and love. And sure throw in some soft sighing vocals while you're at it.
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02-09-2021, 07:58 AM | #6049 | |
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02-09-2021, 08:21 AM | #6050 |
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Billy trying to compete with Dua Lipa or whatever sounds like a big budget Sisters of Mercy comeback album so RAWK would probably sound like Def Leppard
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02-09-2021, 12:23 PM | #6051 |
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02-09-2021, 02:24 PM | #6052 | |
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but he'd probably even fuck that up and call it BLOW DOGGY DYX or FOR DOGGY DICKS HATH BLOWN EVERMORE |
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02-09-2021, 03:26 PM | #6053 |
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Do people really want Corgan to "bring the rawk?" What was the last good heavy Pumpkins songs? It must have been on Zeitgeist. Since then, the tolerable SP songs have mostly been the more restrained ones. When he tries to write a heavy, riff-rocking spiritual successor to "Bullet," we just get "Solara."
He should just write more songs like "Oceania." That one wasn't bad. |
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02-09-2021, 03:58 PM | #6054 |
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I feel like the last heavy SP song that got any kind of positive response was Marchin' On. Prior to that, As Rome Burns.
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02-09-2021, 06:31 PM | #6055 |
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02-09-2021, 06:33 PM | #6056 |
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I also fucking love Tarantula but I know that’s a hot take
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02-09-2021, 06:43 PM | #6057 |
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Just relistened to Wyttch
What a turd |
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02-10-2021, 11:03 PM | #6058 |
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02-12-2021, 10:23 AM | #6059 | |
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I'd like the dreamy, wistful, feminine-side stuff to come back. But Billy isn't that person anymore. |
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02-12-2021, 03:20 PM | #6060 |
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