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Old 10-31-2018, 04:09 PM   #31
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i’d like to contribute to this thread but my dad wouldn’t let me listen to anything like marilyn manson when i lived in his house, and i just can’t bring myself to wade into this music as a middle-aged man

How did all your parents let you worship satan so much??

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:39 PM   #32
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Um, their parents worshiped Satan as well. Duh.

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:46 PM   #33
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i’d like to contribute to this thread but my dad wouldn’t let me listen to anything like marilyn manson when i lived in his house, and i just can’t bring myself to wade into this music as a middle-aged man

How did all your parents let you worship satan so much??
my dad didn't want me to listen to Manson because he wore an SS uniform on stage once or something.

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 11:21 PM   #34
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Didn't really listen to any Manson thing until I was at least old enough to drive & purchase without a parent being around or whatever, but in earlier days my aunt would bring me to the local record store occasionally, upon which I'd aquire those first few Eminem albums - though even then the record store employees would intervene to ensure I was getting the censored versions. A young boi just can't win!

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 03:16 AM   #35
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I think Holy Wood would be a better album if the singles were left off and it was shortened to about 10 tracks.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:39 AM   #36
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Yeah, Holy Wood is way long and bloated, much like Manson himself these days

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:40 AM   #37
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i’d like to contribute to this thread but my dad wouldn’t let me listen to anything like marilyn manson when i lived in his house, and i just can’t bring myself to wade into this music as a middle-aged man

How did all your parents let you worship satan so much??
My parents (mom) really couldn't have given two shits what I was doing.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:40 AM   #38
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Also, it's all mostly nostalgia at this point, so don't feel like you're missing out on anything.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:53 AM   #39
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My parents didn't care what kind of Satanic profanities were in the music, but if there was a drum kit rather than timpani then my father was opposed to me listening to it because it was a waste of my musical education and if there is one thing the old man hates, it's not getting his money's worth.

Marilyn Manson, Cannibal Corpse, Smashing Pumpkins, Duke Ellington = not real music.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:16 PM   #40
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i’d like to contribute to this thread but my dad wouldn’t let me listen to anything like marilyn manson when i lived in his house, and i just can’t bring myself to wade into this music as a middle-aged man

How did all your parents let you worship satan so much??
My parents both had a pretty bad case of Divorce Guilt and just look at me now.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:05 AM   #41
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Last night I dreamed that Smells Like Children was getting some deluxe reissue treatment, with the recalled promo tracks and samples reinstated, never-before heard TR remixes, and a live soundboard featuring some nonexistent drummer named "Windex the Kraken" who "came on board for a few shows after Lucas but before Ginger, but sucked so they kicked him out."

My one-time love for this band and all the lunacy it represented still haunts my subconscious, it seems.

 
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:10 PM   #42
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lol marilyn manson. too bad you guys never discovered MAYHEM (like i did 20 years after they all killed themselves/each other)

 
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Old 11-10-2018, 01:22 AM   #43
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As I was trying to say
I'm very shocked how MM is a gay icon I have never had any contact with

but it kinda makes sense now...

I love you MMM, thank you for making my husband love you too....

 
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:24 AM   #44
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I first saw the sweet dreams video when i was like 13 or 14 (so around 1996) and it scared the shit out of me.

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:36 PM   #45
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Can we get a list of the best songs post-Mechanical Animals?

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:49 PM   #46
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Can we get a list of the best songs post-Mechanical Animals?
1) holy wood album
2) gaog album

the end

 
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:04 PM   #47
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Third Day of a Seven Day Binge
Tattooed in Reverse
Cupid Carries a Gun
Threats of Romance

I’m partial to deep six and saturnalia as well

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:29 AM   #48
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I first saw the sweet dreams video when i was like 13 or 14 (so around 1996) and it scared the shit out of me.
I think I first saw the band when they appeared on, what was it, Donahue or something? and they scared the shit out of me too

When I finally heard their music I was like OH SHIT IT'S THESE GUYS

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:55 AM   #49
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Mechanical Animals and Pale Emperor are the only albums that matter

Antichrist is OK

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:57 AM   #50
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Pale Emperor is really really good

Only because he didn’t write it

It’s a blues album

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:59 AM   #51
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Can we get a list of the best songs post-Mechanical Animals?
-Most of the Holy Wood album

GOAG:
This Is The New Shit
Title track
-Doll-Dagga Buzz-Buzz Ziggety Zag
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Eat Me Drink Me:

-Putting Holes In Happiness
-The Red Carpet Grave
-You & Me & The Devil makes 3

The High End Of Low (a personal late-period favorite of mine):

-Devour
-Leave a Scar
-Four Rusted Horses
-Running To The Edge Of The World
-I Have to Look Up Just to See Hell

Born Villain:

-Overneath The Path of Misery
-Children Of Cain

The Pale Emperor:

-Most of the album, really. It was surprisingly good.

Heaven Upside Down:

-Tattooed In Reverse. Maybe.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:38 PM   #52
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Mechanical Animals and Pale Emperor are the only albums that matter

Antichrist is OK
I think it's a bit silly to say that Antichrist doesn't matter. Especially since, from a larger perspective, The Pale Emperor doesn't really matter because nobody bought it and it didn't pierce through the pop culture bubble in any meaningful way.

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Old 11-14-2018, 10:16 PM   #53
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I am the -ism

My hate's a prism

 
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Old 11-15-2018, 12:31 AM   #54
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I think it's a bit silly to say that Antichrist doesn't matter. Especially since, from a larger perspective, The Pale Emperor doesn't really matter because nobody bought it and it didn't pierce through the pop culture bubble in any meaningful way.
Antichrist Superstar is the most important Manson album and his best. Mechanical Animals is also a masterpiece. Holy Wood is like a combination of the two, and I love that album too.

I think it's unfair to say that Pale Emperor didn't matter. It was a great return to form and his best in years. It sold pretty well, got lots of good reviews, and I recall lots of people talking about it at the time.

 
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:37 AM   #55
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I didn't really listen to Antichrist as much as some of his other records but from memory it measures up pretty well (and I think is generally regarded as his defining record) - Irresponsible Hate Anthem has a killer riff, there's a couple pretty good tunes through the middle, but the end of the album is the goods. The Reflecting God is as close as MM came to being as good as NIN, and The Man That You Fear is one of the rare occasions on which he navigated doing something resembling a balled really well.

 
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Old 11-15-2018, 01:40 PM   #56
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I think it's unfair to say that Pale Emperor didn't matter. It was a great return to form and his best in years. It sold pretty well, got lots of good reviews, and I recall lots of people talking about it at the time.
I was speaking more about its cultural impact/importance and not necessarily its quality. I actually listened to it for the first time this morning and enjoyed it quite a bit. But from a distance, it appears as one of those things that came and went. It got good reviews but ultimately did nothing to boost his career. Think Oceania. Of course, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I would be surprised if this was some blockbuster release I wasn't aware of.

I mean, outside of John Wick, I had never heard a note from the thing until today, so ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

 
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Old 11-15-2018, 01:41 PM   #57
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But yeah. Album's really nice. Glad I finally listened.

 
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