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Old 05-27-2014, 07:03 PM   #211
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yeah he's mentally ill i mean i wouldn't just call him dumb or a troll, he's got issues

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:37 PM   #212
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is there a specific mental illness that gives a boarder a free pass to hijack threads? Or does someone simply need to troll harder than anybody else?

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:55 PM   #213
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shut the fuck up scotty

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:35 PM   #214
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scotty please

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:45 PM   #215
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Should anybody with a mental health issue be denied guns?
Yes.

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:49 PM   #216
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Meaning most people on this forum shouldn't be allowed near guns (starting with me of course)

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:56 PM   #217
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Yes.
That's more than a quarter of the country.

Should be higher IMO.

 
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:58 PM   #218
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so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:02 AM   #219
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the idiotic part of that line of thinking is the fact that every year thousands of people with no mental health issues kill people.

But somehow they should still be able to buy guns... ?

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:09 AM   #220
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Meaning most people on this forum shouldn't be allowed near guns (starting with me of course)
FUCK!

And I wanted a gun so badly.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:48 AM   #221
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Since three were stabbed to death and he purchased guns legally you are right.
That's the whole point, bro.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-...re-this,36131/

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
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ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:25 AM   #222
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so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?
Personally, but keep in mind i say this as someone not an american, i don't see why the 2nd amendment has to exist at all anymore. I mean yeah im realistic, it's never gonna go away cause there's many that love their guns, but seriously, fuck the second amendment hard.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:48 AM   #223
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"Well regulated militia"

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 04:53 AM   #224
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so someone with an eating disorder should have their constitutional rights suspended? Despite never having broken a law?

A vet with PTSD would have their 2nd amendment rights taken away?

What other constitutional rights should someone with a psychiatric disorder lose?
I thought you wanted guns taken away, period. I don't want to comment on eating disorders, as we both know how complex it is.

Anyone, veteran or not, shouldn't own firearms if they are unstable. Wouldn't you agree with this?

You're sort of jumping to the conclusions mat here, by assuming I'm for banning rights straight across the board.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:01 AM   #225
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The thing is this.... do we have the time and money to evaluate every single person in this country dealing with a psychiatric disorder for gun ownership? I'm going to say no.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:27 AM   #226
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That's the whole point, bro.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-...re-this,36131/

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
Holy fuck if I read one more post where "TAJE AWAY ALL YHE GUNS" is their solution I'm going to scream.

IT. IS. NOT. HAPPENING.

Focus instead on the issues that cause people to use the gun.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:34 AM   #227
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Why isn't it happening. That's a better question I think.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:37 AM   #228
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right. what makes this such an impossibility? certainly any civilized society is able to reflect on its issues and demand change when needed?

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:57 AM   #229
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Why isn't it happening. That's a better question I think.
The United States Constitution. The U.S. political structure.

It's a pipe dream. Australian gun control would be great. But it's impractical to pretend that's happening here. It wastes resources that could be spent going after reachable gains.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:42 AM   #230
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We tried that last time and got fucking nowhere.

Leftists need to stop placating the gun lobby. Either repeal the second amendment or work to install justices who can undo the damage done over the last forty years or whatever.

What do you consider a reachable gain? Limits on magazines? We tried that.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:47 AM   #231
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this conversation is so tiresome that it makes me want to shoot myself in the face.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:49 AM   #232
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why couldn't this kid have been romantically spurned by antonin scalia or clarence thomas.

would solve some problems. can't wait till those shitbags are dead.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:50 AM   #233
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i love those guys

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:44 AM   #234
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We tried that last time and got fucking nowhere.

Leftists need to stop placating the gun lobby. Either repeal the second amendment or work to install justices who can undo the damage done over the last forty years or whatever.

What do you consider a reachable gain? Limits on magazines? We tried that.
Cutting access to anyone with mental health issues would be a nice start. Repeal the 2nd Amendment? Seriously?

Locking up mental health patients (and not letting them dictate their own treatment) would be good too but that's police state level stuff.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:50 AM   #235
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so repealing the second amendment is a joke but completely ignoring the fourth in order to lock up anyone with a mental illness (????) is "good"

like, what

wait not the fourth amendment. you know what i mean though. just arresting people for being sick is weirder than saying you don't have unlimited rights to guns.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:01 PM   #236
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And both are untouchable, right.

The truth is mass mutters are so fe and far between they shouldn't be the focus. Every day biokkebt crime in inner city Anerica should be the focus. Every day 40+ people are murdeted in America.

It's a societal failure that has to be fixed, and mass shootings are so rare it's IMO not where one should focus on said fix.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:07 PM   #237
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Locking up mental health patients (and not letting them dictate their own treatment) would be good too but that's police state level stuff.
are you serious, I really can't tell

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:16 PM   #238
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you can argue we already do "lock up" the mentally ill, under certain parameters. you can be involuntarily committed

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:23 PM   #239
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are you serious, I really can't tell
Yes I'm serious it'd lower the number of mass shootings. No I'm not serious that should be done.

 
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:36 PM   #240
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Mass murders are rare only if you have an incredibly fucked up view of how often to expect mass shootings.

 
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