So how about Israel

[duovamp]

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[Future Boy]

dont reject duo's friend request, he takes it pretty hard

[redbreegull]

you all seem to have found a lot of unnecessary words in that post considering you didn't read it

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

you all seem to have found a lot of unnecessary words in that post considering you didn't read it

I was going to go through it and bold every unnecessary word but it would have taken too long. Maybe next time I'm on my laptop I'll do it.

[Eulogy]

Just tryin to help, bro

[Lucky Day Spa]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

you all seem to have found a lot of unnecessary words in that post considering you didn't read it

you wrote a 360-word paragraph. half that would be too much in most contexts

[redbreegull]

I think actually you believe it is too much in one particular context, which is a message board. because in the context of meaningfully discussing one of the most contentious international relations issues in modern times, supporting points with examples and evidence that may oh my god take a full minute to read is really not too much. sure there are some superfluous words because I was more or less talking conversationally. If I were actually being graded trotskilicious, I would have read it through before posting. I guess I should try to use the quote feature more often, but I was specifically engaging mayfuck or whoever was making fun of people for saying the situation is complex by actually giving some examples of the situation being complex and difficult to work through in terms of fault

[duovamp]

Israel bad

[duovamp]

Hamas bad

[duovamp]

/thread

[duovamp]

Jews bad

[duovamp]

All religion bad

[duovamp]

Some good parts most bad

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by sppunk

I have a hard time getting up in arms about IDF attacks when Hamas doesn't fight fairly

One would be a fool to assert that Hamas is doing the Palestinian people any favors, or that it is justified in its acts of terrorism, but "fairly" is an interesting choice of words considering not only armament disparities but also access to basic resources essential for survival. The degree of suffering is weighted against the Palestinians by several orders of magnitude such that it would not be incorrect to refer to the "armed conflict" as genocide

[killtrocity]

Bill Maher was half correct when he referred to Hamas as a mentally insane woman who is restrained at the wrists and occasionally slapped out of frustration. The missing component is that the woman is deprived of food, water, and shelter, and then systematically beaten for becoming violent under these conditions

[pavementtune]

And electricity, they cut the power in Gaza City.

War casualties is also not the right term when you happen to kill more children and women than militants.

(28 words.)

[Lucky Day Spa]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I think actually you believe it is too much in one particular context, which is a message board.

that was unmistakably implicit, surely

supporting statements don't need to be contained within the same paragraph. that just makes things hard to read. but the general issue really is the signal:noise ratio. it's not everyone else's job to mentally edit your verbiage. there's nothing special about your thinking or writing ability that shifts the burden of work onto the reader. if you want to be read and understood, you have to be clear and succinct. consideration is not owed to you

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

The degree of suffering is weighted against the Palestinians by several orders of magnitude such that it would not be incorrect to refer to the "armed conflict" as genocide

uh, no. I read this on facebook the other day as well. it's not a genocide. calling this a genocide saps the gravity of meaning from the word. Words have actual meanings and relying on emotionally charged buzz phrases in an argument is both polarizing and disingenuous. Obama is not a socialist, the war in Gaza is not genocide.

Originally Posted by Lucky Day Spa

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I think that it was obvious I was not interested in being read by people with a two sentence attention span because, you know, I wrote more than that. I don't care if you think the post is too long and skipped it, my feelings are unwounded. The annoying part is that you all have now spent probably ten times as much time as it would have taken to read what I wrote to critique posting anything long on message boards. Just typical netphorian spitefulness. let's start a fight about literally anything possible hurrah!

[Bread Regal]

do you know what genocide is

[Eulogy]

It's not about attention span.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Bread Regal

do you know what genocide is

I understand there is an effort that has been made by some liberals to make genocide mean any sort of mass killing, but I fail to see the efficacy in conflating these things other than to legitimize their own sensationalism

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Lucky Day Spa

. there's nothing special about your thinking or writing ability

You're in a position to make that claim?

[Eulogy]

No one here is special

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I understand there is an effort that has been made by some liberals to make genocide mean any sort of mass killing, but I fail to see the efficacy in conflating these things other than to legitimize their own sensationalism

so you never used the term "Rwandan Genocide"?
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/...56384-0029.xml

[smashingjj]

my opinion on the matter:

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[Lucky Day Spa]

Originally Posted by duovamp

You're in a position to make that claim?

well no, not in the way you've selectively quoted it out of context

[Lucky Day Spa]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

my opinion on the matter:

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that's concerning

[smashingjj]

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[Lucky Day Spa]

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[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

so you never used the term "Rwandan Genocide"?
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/...56384-0029.xml

I think what happened in Rwanda had the specific goal of murdering/eliminating people of a particular group. I don't personally think that anyone but some real extremists in Israel want to kill Palestinians because they are Palestinians. When I argued about this with someone else the other day, the other party said a lot of things like, "but in effect..."

well I guess you could make that argument although I think the killing of a few hundred or even a few thousand people is kind of a flimsy argument for genocide without the intent to kill them BECAUSE of their nationality. Truthfully, a shit ton of civilians are killed in all wars. Are all wars genocides?

Americans probably killed 100,000+ civilians in Iraq. Was it an Iraqi genocide? I'm not setting up a strawman, just trying to find where the borders of this term are because it seems to mean an increasing number of things