toxic masculinity

[vixnix]

mixed with non-toxic silicone

I'm having a Eulogy moment: I can't even

[noyen]

when I was a teenager like 30 years ago I posed the argument online somewhere that while these things are disgusting, they can be used to keep men from fucking actual children. it's kinda like of they're going to want to do it, but it's illegal to, the alternative here isnt so bad. let people fuck a stuffed horse or a melon. stick that fucked up dick in a pile of warm shit as long as it's not a child. I got a lot of shit for making the argument at the time but I think these fucked up things can be turned to quell the crreepy fucked throbbing purple old knobs away from actual people. make our laws harsher and throw people in a wood chipper and make these dollars legal and then they're also flagged but the government and watched by the NSA overlords. Jonathan Monte MICROPENIS penismile lds meat sald.

[butthurt]

www.jonathanmonte.com

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[vixnix]

That is an interesting idea, noyen. Does it actually work that way though, or does it just make a neural pathway even stronger, because the experience is so much closer to what they actually want?

I sort of think about porn, too - how apparently the more someone watches, the harder it is to find something that turns them on, so they look for increasingly more depraved things? And novelty is a big part of it, isn't it? So one doll might not be enough...they would keep wanting something new. I dunno...I'm just going on the turnover rate I saw, watching Hot Girls Wanted, and how if girls wanted to stay longer and keep working, they had to agree to the more depraved videos.

Personally I think they should make them legal and then as you say, monitor the sales. When one is ordered, the UPS guy turns up and is actually a locksmith. The buyer gets evicted on the spot and their name is published on the child sex predator list, and hopefully they starve on the street and free up a house, helping to alleviate the pressures of the housing crisis

[noyen]

why address the problem by waiting for it to happen and then hope to catch people through a flawed legal system. you're introducing what ifs that are halted by this precursory fuck toy. if you're encouraged to fuck a child doll you can be treated like someone who checked out flagged books.

this society is fucked and nothing can be done to stop to stopped it unless we start tossing people in the chipper.

[FoolofaTook]

like in fargo?

[Sonic Johnny]

You are actually the worst person hey

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by noyen

when I was a teenager like 30 years ago I posed the argument online somewhere that while these things are disgusting, they can be used to keep men from fucking actual children. it's kinda like of they're going to want to do it, but it's illegal to, the alternative here isnt so bad. let people fuck a stuffed horse or a melon. stick that fucked up dick in a pile of warm shit as long as it's not a child. I got a lot of shit for making the argument at the time but I think these fucked up things can be turned to quell the crreepy fucked throbbing purple old knobs away from actual people. make our laws harsher and throw people in a wood chipper and make these dollars legal and then they're also flagged but the government and watched by the NSA overlords. Jonathan Monte MICROPENIS penismile lds meat sald.

while i do appreciate your non-reactionary take on this, and there is a point to what you're saying, i think it would be a massively dangerous slope because in like 5 seconds from these things being sold on the everyman's fav shopping site or whatever it would make the shitstains who are into it feel like it's legitimized, appropriate, or a 'hobby' that they can pursue and celebrate/congregate around with no consequences.

your logical thinking is correct but it neglects the fact that people are a sickness and quite often the smallest exploit in most anything becomes completely unhinged in no time and turn into a monstrous problem, ultimately probably because most will always choose pleasure over any attempt at self improvement

[vixnix]

What has to go wrong in a man’s life for him to end up wanting a doll like this

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by vixnix

What has to go wrong in a man’s life for him to end up wanting a doll like this

Lots of things, most commonly being a victim of sexual abuse in childhood themselves, although it has been documented in a number of journals of psychology and sexology that there are a small number of people who spontaneously develop paedophilic ideation during their sexual awakening, and it's been identified as a developmental disorder.

So yeah good of you to think we should just kill these people instead of trying to cure them. Very christian.

[teh b0lly!!1]

are we really gonna do the 'everyone is good and needs to be saved' bullshit now

50% or more of the human world population needs to go guy, and there's no harm in wishing pedophiles and other shitty people were dead as fried fucking chicken

not everybody needs or deserves to live just because they were born

[FoolofaTook]

in which half do you fall?

[teh b0lly!!1]

if a red button were to be pressed and i had to go, that would have been perfectly fair and i would have had no qualms about it

[teh b0lly!!1]

make no mistake, when i say most of humanity is shit and that the world would be better off without so many of us out i certainly don't put myself above it

but if i have one thing going for me is that i do try my best to do better

[FoolofaTook]

don't you think most ppl would say the same?

[FoolofaTook]

lately i've been wondering just how much i lie to myself

[teh b0lly!!1]

when you lie in your bed?

[FoolofaTook]

heh

[FoolofaTook]

hey i've been eating hella hummus. oh and i ate fresh figs for the first time this morning. succulent!

[FoolofaTook]

going to lunch RIGHT NOW

shalom

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

don't you think most ppl would say the same?

not really, no.

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

and there's no harm in wishing pedophiles and other shitty people were dead as fried fucking chicken

i'm not talking about pedophiles, i'm talking about people pedophilic ideation. Do you understand what the difference between this two things is or am I going to have to explain that to you as well?

Vix has gone on record on this website saying that people who self-identify as having ideation and seek assistance to help control their impulses should be executed.

[FoolofaTook]

i'm having weed ideation.

like, the idea is in my head, but i can never realize it.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

i'm not talking about pedophiles, i'm talking about people pedophilic ideation. Do you understand what the difference between this two things is or am I going to have to explain that to you as well?

Vix has gone on record on this website saying that people who self-identify as having ideation and seek assistance to help control their impulses should be executed.

ok so this is really about you necro'ing something vix may or may not have said whenever in the past on this terrible shithole of a forum notorious for turning nihilism into its motto, only to prove a point and defend the type of people who will order a child fuck doll on the internet in the process.

thanks for your contribution.

[vixnix]

Would love to see sources for all the stuff you’re claiming about pedophilia.

What constitutes acting on pedophilic ideation? Going to the beach or swimming pool to take photos, sharing photos that someone else took? Sharing photos of abuse?

I find it hard to believe that all the men involved in the underage sex industry around the world are just poor men who have been abused themselves.

Lots of people are abused. Hardly any of them go on to get kicks out of watching children being victimised by adults or participating in that victimisation.

I’m happy to be wrong about this, and for there to be an answer other than the wood chipper. But yeah, a lot of these guys could be fed into the chipper and the world would be a better place, in my opinion. I still believe that.

[vixnix]

Not really, I think death by wood chipper would leave a stain on other human souls. But being quietly put down like the lame race horses they are, I mean we do that already to other species, when they present a danger to children - pitbulls for example. If they have already harmed a child, why treat them differently to a dog?

[FoolofaTook]

i start a thread about dinotopia and all you guys can talk about is child sex dolls and feeding preverts into wood chippers

what a life

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by teh b0lly!!1

ok so this is really about you necro'ing something vix may or may not have said whenever in the past on this terrible shithole of a forum notorious for turning nihilism into its motto, only to prove a point and defend the type of people who will order a child fuck doll on the internet in the process.

thanks for your contribution.

Either you're being deliberately dim and misrepresenting what I said, or you're just too stupid to comprehend what I wrote. Either way, time to leave the conversation kid.

Originally Posted by vixnix

What constitutes acting on pedophilic ideation? Going to the beach or swimming pool to take photos, sharing photos that someone else took? Sharing photos of abuse?

Yes, all of these things count. Anyone who does any of this things should go to jail for a significant stretch of time. Anyone who molests or rapes a child should go to jail for the remainder of their life. This is pretty straightforward stuff.

Originally Posted by vixnix

I find it hard to believe that all the men involved in the underage sex industry around the world are just poor men who have been abused themselves.

Okay so your use of the wording "poor men" is so fucking loaded that it deserves addressing. Now I don't know if you're aware of this right but abusing and being abused is not a dichotomy. Some people - most people - who perpetrate abuse are or have been abuse victims themselves. This does not excuse their behaviour and it does not make them good people, it simply makes them both victims and perpetrators which most people would rather not think about given that it's not as black and white, and most people (fucking ESPECIALLY devout christians) don't want to think about the world in such terms. I know you'd really love to suggest that I have sympathy for the people who perpetrate the abuse of minors directly or indirectly, but i'm not letting that innuendo go through to the keeper.

Originally Posted by vixnix

Lots of people are abused. Hardly any of them go on to get kicks out of watching children being victimised by adults or participating in that victimisation.

This is great because you've taken the two groups (victims of abuse and abusers) and you've made the first one as broad in scope as it could possibly be (literally anybody who has ever been the victim of any kind of abuse, be it sexual, physical, emotional etc at any stage in their lives) and you've made the second one as narrow in scope as you possibly could (people who participate in only one of the many different manifestations of pedophilic abuse) to try and make your point. If you look at the histories of people who perpetrate pedophilic abuse, i absofuckinglutely guarantee you that at the absolute very least 50% of them, if not significantly more, were abuse victims themselves, almost certainly in childhood. This is difficult data to collate but there are absolutely statistically demonstrable correlations in the localised research that has been done.

Originally Posted by vixnix

I’m happy to be wrong about this, and for there to be an answer other than the wood chipper. But yeah, a lot of these guys could be fed into the chipper and the world would be a better place, in my opinion. I still believe that.

You're actually not happy to be wrong about this. Being wrong about this involves acknowledging that the people who perpetrate these awful behaviours aren't inhuman monsters, people innately different to your or I in any significant way, but rather that they're regular people engaging in evil behaviour as a result of any one of a number of conditionings that caused them to develop abnormally. Again, these are not excuses, they are reasons. But denying the obvious factors around these crimes that can be leveraged to identify and treat these individuals before they offend, thus protecting potential victims and helping alleviate the cycle because it makes you uncomfortable to humanise the perpetrators is plain old selfish privileged bullshit.

[Sonic Johnny]

Picture this, vix: One day in the future one of your sons, now fully grown as an adult, comes to you in tears and tells you through his sobs that he has invasive sexual urges pertaining to minors and that he is scared to ask for help in curbing them. Are you gonna try and help him or are you gonna rev up the woodchipper?

[Disco King]

We must stop people from buying with their own money inanimate objects that the rest of is don't like.