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08-23-2020, 10:11 PM | #1 |
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It is criminal that MTV lost the tapes to Brixton 96
best show they ever played, hands down. last pajama set ever. last jellybelly with jimmy. ruby [with badass outro] > porcelina > bodies. fairly well-developed silverfuck > farewell + goodnight. last take me down ever. last soma until the arising tour. last cupid with james.
this gig showcases SP at their most wistful and their most aggressive. |
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08-24-2020, 12:22 AM | #2 |
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I have the full show AMT if you want that. Quality is actually half-way decent.
(Edit n/m - you have that re: our discussion years ago here: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...+hybrid&page=2) Last edited by Copperpot5 : 08-24-2020 at 12:30 AM. |
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08-24-2020, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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YES. Someone should be executed for this.
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08-24-2020, 12:38 PM | #4 |
Ownz
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Wow. That sucks.
Though, I think that the January 1997 Vancouver show is the best they did. IMO, it has the best traditional-style Porcelina (Porcelina -> Rocket) (the final Metro show Porcelina is amazing, but is its own thing), Siva with that amazing psychedelic middle section (and Billy goes "oops!"), and Silverfuck jam (super brutal and then the ending is sublime and gives closure). The Cherub Rock ending is awesome, cool WBFTT ending, one of the better Ruby outro solos. Their improv solo melodies at this show were flawless to the point that it doesn't sound like it's improv, and it's the only MCIS show I'm aware of where they pulled that off. https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-...1-08d1t04.flac |
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08-24-2020, 01:55 PM | #5 | |
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08-24-2020, 02:32 PM | #6 |
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D'arcy's there, ain't that enough?
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08-24-2020, 03:17 PM | #7 |
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No “best” show without the original four can count as an absolute best show.
When was their last gig? Arising tour? |
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08-24-2020, 03:52 PM | #8 | |
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I thought about that. But for me, yeah, it is. It comes down to the music. And Matt is coping Jimmy's drum parts, so Jimmy is there in spirit.
I think the drums in that show are a bit too cymbal splashy, and I wonder if it's just the recording, but they're still good. Quote:
Arising wrapped-up April 1999: http://www.spfc.org/tours/tour.html?tn_id=1 SP didn't play again until October 1999: http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?year=1999 Last edited by he/she/it : 08-24-2020 at 04:11 PM. |
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08-24-2020, 04:07 PM | #9 |
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I've never understood why they don't just put out the God damned soundboard recording they've had for 24 years.
Leads me to believe, perhaps they actually don't? Or is Billy so Billy that selling shows on nugs, just like Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam, is somehow beneath him? Copperpot used to have a great full video of the show, taped from a lone camera on a tripod and it had mostly good audio. Disappeared though. I feel like Brixton was the last sort of innocent MCIS show, because when it came back to America, it was much more dark and well, we know what happened. I was always partial to the Berlin Bullet bootleg because of the transitions between some of the songs and a tremendous Muzzle. You can also hear Jimmy's drumming more from aud recordings. Related question. What is the best Machina era show and recording? |
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08-25-2020, 10:47 AM | #10 |
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Related question: At which tour did they play the best Silverfuck?
Just listening to an early 1997 recording and it's insane. |
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08-25-2020, 04:26 PM | #11 | |
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Of course GM Place 1997 is THE silverfuck. I think it was alt.music.smashingpumpkins. but in the days of the MCIS tour, people would track silverfuck. They'd add in his ad-libs and map out how the song went. So you'd see a lot of this: Started with Silverfuck II into silverfuck I then into silverfuck III. Basically tracking the variations of this strange beautiful 30 minute song and how it evolved each night. Matt was the only drummer, aside from Jimmy, to hold his own. He seems to be the only one whom didn't miss a beat. And the dude hit harder than acid. Watch that proshot performance in the summer of 97. The guy hits so hard, especially during 1979, the stage shakes. What is this? https://youtu.be/YONlnPjZMnY |
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08-25-2020, 10:29 PM | #12 |
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The show from Denmark 2000.10.27 is fantastic quality. That whole tour was magical, they reworked so many songs including Today which sounds stunning with the piano.
Yes the Silverfuck from Vancouver is UNREAL. The Bury Me tag into the solo phase....doesn't really get better than that. How was it possible this band could transition into weird shit about some rando called Mary being a stupid girl then into this section of pure heaven. Was there any video for this show? Look no one is as good as Jimmy but Matt can play, thank fuck they didn't ask Brad Wilk or Tommy Clufetos back then. Departure time always and arrival time never. |
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08-29-2020, 09:38 PM | #13 |
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For me one of the quintessential machina shows is 9.24.2000 https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-09-24.sbd.flac16
I mean look at this: disarm, tonight, try, porcelina, I of the mourning, this time, blank page, cherub It's like damn they swung for it |
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08-29-2020, 10:23 PM | #14 | |
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I never thought about that, it's quite a beautiful way to describe the arc of the tour. Did not know it was the last of the european leg. Then they played Australian shows, and I think that got kinda dark for JC/Melvoin. And then america -- yeah, those feels so dark knowing how they ended - plus the set got tighter/more brutal/faster/more streamlined |
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08-29-2020, 10:28 PM | #15 | |
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~~ Machina wise has to be the Bercy show. https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-...0-19d1t10.flac chamberlin is just brutal |
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08-31-2020, 11:15 AM | #16 | |
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08-31-2020, 07:24 PM | #17 |
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They had so many versions of the songs on the machina tour. Snail was my personal favorite from that time.
https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-...0-05-14t17.shn There was also an abundance of complete soundboard or radio broadcast recordings from this time. |
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01-31-2021, 05:32 AM | #18 |
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watching that amazing ruby again
it looks like the crowd in the pit during the outro isn't even moving...they're in a trance from the sheer brilliance of rawk coming from the stage god imagine going to that concert, see bill in his pjs, watching a pristine, peak MCIS show |
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01-31-2021, 04:53 PM | #19 |
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the CALAH of YAH LUV
is GRAY |
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02-01-2021, 12:35 AM | #20 |
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What they need is a good defense.
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02-01-2021, 02:49 AM | #21 |
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haven't you learned anything from the frequent & beloved appearances of krackhead?
the tapes were baked by a certain rat bastard who will not currently be named & yes, i agree he should be thoroughly punished |
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02-01-2021, 03:10 AM | #22 |
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RBQ will go down in 2022
Say it with me. |
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02-01-2021, 08:26 AM | #23 |
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They have all the sounndboard of each extract appearing in the live compilation of tafh ?
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02-01-2021, 01:45 PM | #24 | |
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02-01-2021, 04:08 PM | #25 |
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02-01-2021, 05:06 PM | #26 |
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02-01-2021, 08:51 PM | #27 |
dumb
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goth rock piss off your parents
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02-02-2021, 01:06 PM | #28 |
Minion of Satan
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still love that that was the pic Billy went with for the promotional poster
looks like he was caught candidly during a "snuggle-bunnies" movie night |
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02-02-2021, 07:58 PM | #29 |
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The tapes were baked by RBQ ratbastardqunito.
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02-02-2021, 09:03 PM | #30 |
Minion of Satan
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HELL YEAH THEY WERE BABY
HELL YEAH THEY WERE |
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