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Old 10-31-2018, 12:17 PM   #1411
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He needs to get off of social media. He’s the last person that needs to interact directly with his fans as he can’t resist being ugly and rude and alienating people.
I think part of it relates to his blaming the fans for all the things that don't go his way. This feels like a familiar story, someone has mental and emotional challenges, it motivates them to make a lot of great art, then nobody gets that person they help they need because they profit too much from said great art.

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:27 PM   #1412
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Real Love was on the regular Rotten Apples. It's taken from the master tape and not a vinyl transfer, but still fuzzy as all fuck
Some instagrammer should ask BC if the fuzz will be present in the reissue, because IMO, that's the only question that matters at the end of the day. If the multi track sources are gone, I'm guessing the answer is yes.

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:25 PM   #1413
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or do a special bonfire with them shouting "THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED" while everyone aside from a couple monte/cluckett types casually passed & paid no attention
ha ha ha ha ha yes.

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:31 PM   #1414
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that's a very disconcerting laugh you just gave there, dustboy

 
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:32 PM   #1415
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:35 PM   #1416
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:36 AM   #1417
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we have a studio version of Methuselah, don't we?

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:09 AM   #1418
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...wow...LOL:




those albums, is he referring to the 2 Warner albums that were taken off streaming, Zwan and Zeitgeist?

how does this work, btw, is it def. the band's call or has a label the right to say "listen, we are taking these 2 albums off spotify"?
or "excuse me, you want us to pay you WHAT for hosting it on spotify? - not happening"

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:01 AM   #1419
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You can host as many albums you want on Spotify / iTunes etc for $30 a year with the likes of Distrokid. It's not the cost.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:09 AM   #1420
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I didn't mean the cost of hosting it, but what a label that puts x album on spotify would pay an artist

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:13 AM   #1421
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those albums, is he referring to the 2 Warner albums that were taken off streaming, Zwan and Zeitgeist?

how does this work, btw, is it def. the band's call or has a label the right to say "listen, we are taking these 2 albums off spotify"?
or "excuse me, you want us to pay you WHAT for hosting it on spotify? - not happening"
And the Future Embrace.

No, this won't be a label thing or a money thing. It costs peanuts to put something on Spotify and artist as big as SP/Corgan would recoup in a matter of days just from people putting their songs on shuffle.

This will either:

A) Billy being petulant (fuck YOU, if you don't want it you don't get it.)
B) Billy is unhappy with those releases and has decided he doesn't want them easily accessible until he's remixed (expect Machina to vanish next year)
C) Billy is trying to create demand/mystery around those records to build interest for re-releases

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:15 AM   #1422
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I see.

Didn't know TFE is gone as well - what were his stories why Zwan and TFE are down, anyone saw that on his instagram?

 
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I didn't mean the cost of hosting it, but what a label that puts x album on spotify would pay an artist
He could be unhappy with that deal and waiting for it to end (SP have not been wise in the past with anticipating digital trends in royalty contracts) but he'd still be getting more from them being there than not.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:16 AM   #1424
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yea, but he would also still make more by doing a small Euro tour in 4k venues than not touring at all, and yet...

Either way, silly attempt to apply logic to Billy's reasoning, what was I thinking!

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:12 PM   #1425
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It's definitely just him being petulant, c'mon

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:07 PM   #1426
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:00 PM   #1427
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I always assumed it had something to do with all 3 records being released by Warner.

 
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:55 PM   #1428
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this has nothing to do with the IG Q&A, i just saw it while going between this thread and the sp wikipedia/spfc... but i don't think it needs a new thread

what is this? what's the track listing? can't find any info anywhere; just curious.


 
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:26 AM   #1429
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4 SBD live tracks, EP download was called "Black Sunshine + White Crosses"

#1 GLOW (2008-12-02)
#2 Gossamer (2008-12-08)
#3 That's The Way (2008-11-25)
#4 I Am One Part II (2008-11-25)

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White Crosses tour date: everybody buying combination-tickets to both the Black Sunshine and the White Crosses concerts during the Smashing Pumpkins 20th Anniversary tour, received a download link in February 2009. In the download: 4 live songs recorded during the 20th Anniversary tour.

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Old 11-02-2018, 01:30 AM   #1430
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Cool, thanks!

 
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:53 AM   #1431
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I want the limited 2008 20th Anniversary Tour CD-boxset with all of Corgan's live rants.

 
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Old 11-02-2018, 07:59 AM   #1432
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Bridges burned with Melissa too:


 
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:03 AM   #1433
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Exciting horror music from WPC?


 
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:08 AM   #1434
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His German is as bad as 25 years ago... Schwanz, Billy, like Schwanzlutscher!


 
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:12 AM   #1435
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:21 AM   #1436
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We love you both too!


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Old 11-02-2018, 08:25 AM   #1437
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Mean in a sensitive way...


 
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:29 AM   #1438
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Should get beat up at "Beats 1" at their next interview...


 
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Only a joke yet?


 
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Bridges burned with Melissa too:

The fact she didn't invite him to the Courtney Love tribute event she held, considering her link to both of them, suggests they're not on great terms.

 
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