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Old 11-13-2012, 12:04 PM   #1
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Question SNL'S TREASURE TROVE OF NUGGS VOLUME 3:TODAY IS THE GREATEST MACHINES OF GOD

mp3s...
Disc one: http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/15746488/file.html
Disc two: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/24340876/file.html

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flacs...
http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=44301



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The Smashing Pumpkins
Machina Live (soniclovenoize compilation)
(aka SNL'S TREASURE TROVE OF NUGGS VOLUME 3:TODAY IS THE GREATEST MACHINES OF GOD)

I saw The Smashing Pumpkins on the Sacred + Profane Tour in 2000. I’m saddened to say my impressions of that show were verified by all the bootlegs I had heard later on from that tour: the decline of The Smashing Pumpkins. The mix was muddy, the performances sloppy and rather uninspired and a poor translation of the Machina material from the album to the stage. Later in the tour, Mike Garson’s inappropriate meanderings on the few songs that did translate just made matters worse. I was honestly not surprised that The Smashing Pumpkins broke up at the end of the year, as The Sacred and Profane Tour was simply the sound of a great band dying. But it was not a traumatic, explosive suicide; they went quietly in their sleep. A once fiercely speeding train simply came to a stop so the four passengers could exit and head home.

But in making this compilation (as I had done with the Adore album), I now realize that I was wrong: there were diamonds in the rough. Even though there was a lot of rough, these diamonds I have assembled certainly do shine brightly, as you can hear for yourself. The Smashing Pumpkins’ magic was still present all along, only illusive through the circumstances of the Machina album and tour. If the cards had fallen in a different way, who knows how long they could have lasted?

This is a compilation of live recordings mostly from The Smashing Pumpkins’ 2000 tour, structured to create a live version of the Machina albums in their entirety. Nearly all the sources used are soundboard recordings (when available) and none of the sources have been “mastered” by fans. All songs have been volume adjusted and crossfaded to give the impression of a continuous performance in two segments: disc one is the Machina I album in its entirety and disc two is all of the songs from Machina II that were ever performed by the band (ranging from 1999-2007). If you are tired of the production techniques on the Machina album and thirst for a more clearer and a more “meat & potatoes” live-band-sounding recording, then this compilation is for you!

I chose to utilize the best possible soundquality for this compilation. Thus the core material for my compilation is the number of soundboard recordings taped by Eric Agnew. This is the case for most of disc one, with the exception of three songs being audience-sourced, one being TV-sourced and one being a matrix of a TV and an audience source I created myself. By necessity, disc two is split 50/50 between soundboard and audience-sourced material. And as suggested above, ABSOLUTELY NO THIR13EN REMASTERS WERE USED IN THE MAKING OF THIS COMPILATION. If you want absurdly brickwalled “mastering” of already over-compressed FM-sources, you won’t find it here.


Disc One - The Machines of God [75:40]
1. The Everlasting Gaze
2. Raindrops + Sunshowers
3. Stand Inside Your Love
4. I of The Mourning
5. The Sacred + Profane *
6. Try, Try, Try
7. Heavy Metal Machine
8. This Time
9. The Imploding Voice * (from 1999 Arising Tour)
10. Glass + The Ghost Children
11. Wound **
12. The Crying Tree of Mercury *
13. With Every Light ***
14. Blue Skies Bring Tears
15. Age of Innocence

Disc Two - Friends & Enemies of Modern Music [34:50]
1. Glass Theme
2. Cash Car Star
3. Dross
4. Go *
5. Let Me Give The World To You *
6. Home * (from 1999 Arising Tour)
7. In My Body * (from 2007 Zeitgeist Tour)
8. If There Is A God
9. Lucky 13 * (from 2007 Zeitgeist Tour)
10. Speed Kills


All sources are soundboard, except:
* audience source
** TV and audience source matrix
*** TV source
All recordings from 2000 Sacred + Profane Tour, except when noted


Sources:
Flac -> wav -> editing in Goldwave and Audacity -> wav -> flac lv 8 via TLH


Special thanks to those guys who kicked my ass into doing this and spending my Halloween listening to 30 different versions of Everlasting Gaze, you know who you are.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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you are the best! fuck yeah

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:48 PM   #3
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been waiting for this! thank you!

"disc two is all of the songs from Machina II that were ever performed by the band (ranging from 1999-2007)."

lol wut

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:45 PM   #4
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Is it the way I phrased that?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:47 PM   #5
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Cool compilation. Thanks!

Any chance you could link the one for Adore or any other ones I am not aware of as well?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:51 PM   #6
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Cool compilation. Thanks!

Any chance you could link the one for Adore or any other ones I am not aware of as well?
The flacs are on ZOMB, and then the mp3s got retweeted here:
http://www.albert0.nl/2012/10/13/sma...ore-live-flac/

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #7
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Sweet. Thanks, again.

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Old 11-13-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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Maybe Billy hates our fan contingency because we generally do a much better and more efficient job of this sort of thing than he ever does, and he is jealous that the fan albums are better than his? Do we love his good art more than he loves it himself?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:29 PM   #9
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Fuck yes, good work man!

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:37 PM   #10
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What are the dates for each track?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:42 PM   #11
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Thanks for all your hard work. But I must ask, why do you not like the Machina shows so much. I understand that Mike's playing could get a little nauseating, but for the most part I thought it was when the band was at their tightest.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:49 PM   #12
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Mike? He wasn't even in the band for the Sacred + Profane tour or the 2007 Zeitgeist shows dude.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:50 PM   #13
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Thanks!!!!

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:02 PM   #14
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What are the dates for each track?
If you can guess, I will be very very VERY impressed!

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Thanks for all your hard work. But I must ask, why do you not like the Machina shows so much. I understand that Mike's playing could get a little nauseating, but for the most part I thought it was when the band was at their tightest.
It's exactly as I had said--sloppy, uninspired, muddy sound and the material translated poorly. Also the re-arrangements with the drop-C tunings were utter garbage. Compare it to The Arising Tour; THAT was razor sharp and confrontational. Sorry, just my opinion.

And as I had said, I'm sure it was just the dismal mindset of the band that set the tone for the whole tour: James was completely ambivalent and was literally going through the motions, Corgan knew that this was the end and that James didn't care, the "emotional anchor" of the band was gone, the label killed a conceptual album that now was reduced to bleak mystery and ambiguous conjecture and it wasn't even selling well. The fact that that MAdM was a better bass player for some reason didn't even matter. This tour should have sounded exactly like The Arising Tour, yet it didn't. Bad vibes man, bad vibes.

In an alternate reality where D'Arcy went to rehab and wasn't fired/quit, I'm sure this tour would have sounded great (like The Arising Tour I suppose).

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Mike? He wasn't even in the band for the Sacred + Profane tour or the 2007 Zeitgeist shows dude.
He means Garson.

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:06 PM   #15
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Yup, the band was in the process of breaking up at that time so I'm thinking that's one of the reasons why the performances were pretty lackluster.

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He means Garson.
Ha, forgot about that.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #16
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Yeah, 'vibes' it plays a big part.

Just the other night we played a show, and our singer and our drummer wanted to fucking punch eachother in the face for some reasons, and it made us all perform with some unusual anger and precision we didn't have at the beginning of the set. This is probably what happened to SP at the 1999 Roxy show...

I don't know bout you, but the knowledge that this was the end of everything yet you still gotta go out there and play every night for a year would probably make me care a whole lot less than if I didn't know that...

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #17
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nice work. time to look for my ZOMB password...

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:02 PM   #18
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i got a message that im a "power user" i guess cause my ratio is 3.672. do i have special privileges or something, SNL?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:17 PM   #19
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Pfff no. My ratio is like 50.251 and I get nothing.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:24 PM   #20
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you should get mailed some cookies

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:25 PM   #21
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Not sure if I trust cookies mailed overseas...

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:36 PM   #22
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thanks. i'll check this out.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:17 PM   #23
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Can't wait to hear this. Thanks for the hard work.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #24
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wow when you take away garson's grandiosity and pomposity on the piano you realize how shitty this tour was and these songs really were

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:37 PM   #25
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yeah i agree. these songs don't move me... except with every light and maybe in my body. i think i like the studio versions better

good compilation though, i'm not knocking it. i just expected to really like it and i feel kinda meh about the songs themselves

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:37 PM   #26
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wow when you take away garson's grandiosity and pomposity on the piano you realize how shitty this tour was and these songs really were
I take it you were not impressed with this?

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:42 PM   #27
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its a larger realization - mostly that the things i like from the machina era are the one-off performances

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:45 PM   #28
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eh that's not even selling it right

 
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:25 AM   #29
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h-hey soniclovenoize, you missed my question

 
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:02 AM   #30
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Thank SLN - humping the monitor in appreciation x

 
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