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05-15-2018, 06:02 PM | #61 |
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05-15-2018, 07:12 PM | #62 | ||||
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Is your suggestion that behaviour adaptations selected for earlier in our species' history have been completely erased? Does this extend to other human adaptations (fear of snakes and spiders, pattern recognition, diurnality, lack of attraction to relatives), or just ones that result in dimorphism? Quote:
And anyway, as I stated before, accepting a biological basis to behaviour doesn't even commit us to these ideologies in the first place. It's not like men preferring more sex than women do means that sexual inequality is suddenly justified. Just out of curiosity, what adverse social practices do you think one would be forced to accept should one also accept that dimorphic behavioural adaptations exist? Quote:
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I'm also sure the dig about "talking to girls I'm not trying to date" is meant to provoke me into clarifying that I do in fact have woman friends, and that we have in fact had conversations about interpersonal attraction, so that the inevitable comeback can be "haha he's trying to use 'I even have female friends!' as a defense!" However, none of that would really be relevant to the current conversation. How so? Last edited by Disco King : 05-15-2018 at 07:19 PM. |
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05-15-2018, 07:59 PM | #63 | |
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ah fuck, I edited my last post by mistake to get the same quotes.
okay, let's try this again: Quote:
you claim empirical evidence. how does the data what women and men did over the last centuries lead to a statement about what they WANT? let's play this, made-up scenario: empirical evidence: country x: 90% of the girls get married by their famlies, at age 14 - 80% of women age 50 had max 2 sexual partners in their life is your conclusion that women want to have one partner, get married at 14, and don't want to have sex before marriage, because you have empirical evidence that this is in fact what they do? what I take issue with your statments is - the want. not what data suggests that women and men did in decade x in culture y. but what they want, and then you continue to find reasons for why they want that. that is incredibly oblivious. |
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05-15-2018, 08:08 PM | #64 |
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Nice discussion and all but there is here only one real expert on what women really want. Fuzzy, take it away.
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05-15-2018, 08:15 PM | #65 | |
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for a good year now your dating stories have read like pulling teeth in a laboratory. so you don't need a defense because what I think about what phrasing you choose when you talk about a girl you ask on a date is not your problem. by using only that data that is available to me, namely your posts about dating stories, I come to the conclusion that you seem to regularly struggle in interacting with girls. and for the why, I draw my gut conclusion that you approach finding a partner or dating partner like a scientific reserach project. "okay this didn't work, let's try this, should I touch her arm or better not, what does the data suggest is more succcessful? she signals she is not into me, and I think that's because x." |
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05-15-2018, 08:16 PM | #66 |
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05-15-2018, 08:18 PM | #67 |
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Not sure what those empirical women that you folks keep going on about are supposed to be but they sound hot to me!
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05-15-2018, 08:20 PM | #68 |
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sorry I misspelled that, I got distracted while looking up the spelling of nincompoop, it's supposed to say elliptical.
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05-15-2018, 08:20 PM | #69 | |
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Studies also asked men and women what traits they value most in possible partners. |
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05-15-2018, 08:22 PM | #70 |
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ah I see. with empirical evidence you meant surveys, my bad, I really thought you meant actions, not preferences.
can you find a link, by chance? I would like to see those because I only know the interpretations of euro surveys that came out pretty much equal. |
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05-15-2018, 08:27 PM | #71 |
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I remember the days of good ole MSN messenger, there'd be chicks that'd randomly send you shots of their naked breasts or in rare situations pictures masturbating and stuff like that. A little different yes, but still kind of falls under the same kind of behavior.
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05-15-2018, 08:32 PM | #72 |
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And before you guys start thinking, "oh wow, Fuzzy must've had game" let me clarify that the majority of these images sent were from girls that you wouldn't exactly wanna see explicit images of... To put it nicely haha.
The point is, I know for a fact girls indulge in the same behavior sometimes too. I'd never be dumb enough to say they do it as much as guys, but it does sometimes happen. |
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05-15-2018, 08:34 PM | #73 | ||
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I understand that for most neurotypicals who didn't have to suffer delayed social development and who can comfortably navigate social situations, social interaction is mostly going to be intuitive. It's not intuitive for me. I've had to practice it like people practice musical instruments or math. I have to pay close attention to the results of by actions. Maybe one day I'll be normal and therefore deserving of interpersonal connections. |
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05-15-2018, 08:40 PM | #74 |
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it's right there, I believe. worth your consideration when talking about reality, yes.
no reason to get so defensive, I didn't know how far your struggle goes. you also don't need to give me imagined "I am being attacked for being not normal" and put words into my mouth how you are supposedly not deserving. come on dude. |
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05-15-2018, 09:49 PM | #75 | |
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05-15-2018, 10:08 PM | #76 |
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I would not claim to know either way
but the Clark and Hatfield study whereby they simply have people solicit strangers for sex seems useless because the concern for social stigma but more importantly personal safety would give you an expected 0% yes rate from women more convincing is an observance of it being the norm across multiple cultures, but out of the compared cultures, how many are not patriarchal? |
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05-16-2018, 03:03 PM | #77 |
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05-16-2018, 03:19 PM | #78 |
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05-16-2018, 03:26 PM | #79 |
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yeah you just might surprise yourself there, mattias!
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05-16-2018, 03:34 PM | #80 |
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pennis not errect
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05-16-2018, 09:07 PM | #81 |
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if a tree falls in the forest, does that mean the tree is no longer errect?
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05-17-2018, 04:52 AM | #82 |
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