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Old 09-17-2021, 11:58 PM   #91
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the guitars sound like they're up front again, rather than blended in politely as has been the case the past few tours. nice and loud. jimmy as usual is in top form.

theres a tonight tonight clip out there, billy and james playing acoustic, and jeff is just shitting these crappy country leads all over it. its bad. he needs to sit back on some things.. on a lot of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a66ldXPJYLI

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:22 AM   #92
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This clip sounds great. Guitars, drums, singing, all of it. Great energy. Hope to see more.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:26 AM   #93
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It sucks that Sierra Swan can't join permanently as bass player/backing vocalist.

I fucking can't stand Jack Bates. He plods around stage like a gormless Womble, and wouldn't even be in the band if Billy didn't have a hardon for Peter Hook.

And I'd like to see D'arcy talk to Dr. Drew.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:29 AM   #94
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love corgan with the beard. makes him seem like a j mascis and/or walter white type
will be following the jeff/james hair drama

festival sets are generally trash if you actually care about the band yet this seemed like a pretty killer set. eminently intrigued about crush>drown>quiet

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:32 AM   #95
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the guitars sound like they're up front again, rather than blended in politely as has been the case the past few tours. nice and loud. jimmy as usual is in top form.

theres a tonight tonight clip out there, billy and james playing acoustic, and jeff is just shitting these crappy country leads all over it. its bad. he needs to sit back on some things.. on a lot of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a66ldXPJYLI
Sounding great for not having played a live gig in 2 years.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:05 AM   #96
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The Colour of Love (I dig it as an opener but I wish the band didn't look so damn apathetic while playing it, especially Billy. I guess they're using Katie/Sierra's vocals as backing tracks):


Wyttch (Jeff adds a solo halfway through and James is rocking out messing with some cool whammy licks. Billy sounds ROUGH in this. I thought this would translate better live but it sounds empty without the synths):

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:10 AM   #97
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The Colour of Love (I dig it as an opener but I wish the band didn't look so damn apathetic while playing it, especially Billy. I guess they're using Katie/Sierra's vocals as backing tracks):


Wyttch (Jeff adds a solo halfway through and James is rocking out messing with some cool whammy licks. Billy sounds ROUGH in this. I thought this would translate better live but it sounds empty without the synths):
he said that vocal part is difficult.. it is high.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:12 AM   #98
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he said that vocal part is difficult.. it is high.
Really needed Katie (if she was there) or at least James to accompany him.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:18 AM   #99
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wyytch is aggressively bad. i figured yall were fucking around with corgan actually yelling SAMHAIN live but oh my god

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:23 AM   #100
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wyytch is aggressively bad. i figured yall were fucking around with corgan actually yelling SAMHAIN live but oh my god
At least the guitar is holding him down.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:28 AM   #101
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All this is pretty wicked imo

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:29 AM   #102
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Even Wyttch is kinda almost endearingly trashy/smoky/back alley. Like a limp white zombie

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:48 AM   #103
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Wyttch has some MCIS B-side vibes. I'm into it. Band is sounding good. I like were this is going.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:49 AM   #104
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James is ripping BTW

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 02:54 AM   #105
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Wyttch isn't the best. Maybe just crappy sound. Too much hi hat! The little solo bit is fine.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:13 AM   #106
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No recording of Quiet huh

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:15 AM   #107
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I actually enjoyed Wyttch live, bar the vocals. WTF happened to the drums at 2:16 tho?

TCoYL sounds tired as fuck. I hate when the band uses backtrack live...

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:19 AM   #108
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:24 AM   #109
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jeff / james is cool af

nice to see billy and jimbo rockin hard on wyttch



my main man bates tho ... billy dumps katie but keeps him? why?

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 03:32 AM   #110
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Brings back memories waiting for someone to upload a show to the C++ hub. lol.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 04:15 AM   #111
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That's a decent setlist and looks to have been solid show.

Bill's voice in rough shape based on the recordings. But he gets a pass due to ageing.

Wytch just isn't hitting where it needs to be, and the end result wouldn't be good enough anyway, so they should switch it out for Purple Blood or Anno.

Agree having a strong female vocalist in the band would make sense at this point.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 04:31 AM   #112
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Holy shit, he's so NOT into it it's almost painful to watch.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 05:10 AM   #113
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Jeff's solo sounds awesome on Wyttch.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 05:40 AM   #114
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Holy shit, he's so NOT into it it's almost painful to watch.
yeah colour was pretty lackluster. and whoever is singing on eye is awful.


katie should be lead vocalist. bolly should just stick to playing riffs. they should fire bates asap. sp never really needed a bassist imo.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 06:15 AM   #115
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So they played an electric version of Crush and an acoustic version of Tonight (Billy, James and Jeff)


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Old 09-18-2021, 06:25 AM   #116
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theres a tonight tonight clip out there, billy and james playing acoustic, and jeff is just shitting these crappy country leads all over it. its bad. he needs to sit back on some things.. on a lot of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a66ldXPJYLI
Not much different from how James played back in the days tho


 
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Old 09-18-2021, 08:44 AM   #117
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Billy's vocal performance seems to be the worst part of all this.
Also weird hearing those snare drum samples/triggers on Colour and Wyttch over JC's livesupersets. It seems JC is actually triggering them, but they sound weird.

It could actually be pretty powerful if Billy didn't sound so bland/bored most times.

Billy's new character is gonna go supermeta... an aging rockstar pretending to be young.

 
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It may be a sustainable business but he has no business being a musician. Clearly he no longer gives af.

 
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yeah colour was pretty lackluster. and whoever is singing on eye is awful.


katie should be lead vocalist. bolly should just stick to playing riffs. they should fire bates asap. sp never really needed a bassist imo.
They should fire B0lly. And Jeff. Actually a Joliet Jim/Yoshinobu James duo la The Black Keys would be freakin rad if you think about it.

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:26 AM   #120
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the guitars sound like they're up front again, rather than blended in politely as has been the case the past few tours. nice and loud. jimmy as usual is in top form.

theres a tonight tonight clip out there, billy and james playing acoustic, and jeff is just shitting these crappy country leads all over it. its bad. he needs to sit back on some things.. on a lot of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a66ldXPJYLI
Dont they mean Zero??

 
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